I am going on a trip this summer and decided to use E85 fuel on the trip. We hear so much about it but I have yet to see a station around me that sales it. So I did a search to see if there was a website that would let me know where to get the fuel.

Well in the area I live there are three proposed sites that plan to carry the fuel but don't do it yet. The closest to me is 25 miles away. The only place I could find on my first 300 miles of the trip is 90 miles away. Then nothing for the rest. Unless I want to detour 2 hours just to get fuel.

So with all this talk about flex fuel why doesn't anyone have it, and why doesn't the goverment make it manditory to have it at all gas stations?
The oil company's dont. want us to buy flex fuel because they lose money on the deal. With that said who cares about the oil companys. I don't.

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how many flex fuel places do you have?

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We wish we had fuel in the DPRK.

There are no flex fuel outlets because there are few flex fuel customers. If people wanted to buy flex fuel there would be outlets to purchase it. Besides, one draw back to flex fuel is the fact you would get up to 30% less fuel mileage. Since it cost the same or more than conventional fuels why would you want to use it?

I have a better idea. Have the freedom loving government mandate under penalty of death that we all convert to electric motor scooters, bicycles or biodiesel powered city buses. Make it illegal to own an automobile of any kind. Make it illegal to be caught with two people or less on your electric motor scooter. Make it a capital offense, beheading by the side of the road. Would that satisfy your freedom loving heart?

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Actually, engines that run only on E85 can get higher efficiency than gasoline engines, but this requires they run at higher temperatures, requiring higher compression, temperatures that cause gasoline to pre-ignite.

Flex fuel is the adaptation that was done in places like Brazil to enable a quick change over to E85, but instead of retrofitting, its installed at the factory.

It is a cheap bridge to a market with E85 being readily available in the market. Like the transition from leaded to unleaded gasoline.

E85 isn't more available because some vehicle fleets are actually tuned to E85 and the fleet owner has its own E85 fueling stations which are restricted to its fleet.

The ability to expand the availability of E85 is in part limited by the oil companies not being willing to defend "the perfectly safe MTBE" oxygenator, and thus switching to ethanol as their oxgenate additive.

So, to create flex fuel, you support the transformation of wetlands and Brazilian rain forests into Agricultural land, because after all, not only do you need to continue to grow food, but you need to grow the products into flex fuels.....

You all are missing the point. We know that if your vehical is equiped to run E85 then that is great if not it will distroy your engine. We are told that to help we need to use E85

yes I know it is killing the food market. Helping me out with the better corn prices but killing the food we eat.

Govorment wants us to use it but gas stations refuse to carry it. Shouldn't it be our choice to put it into the tank and not the gas station.

I don't have that choice for there arn't any stations that carry it around me.

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So if I want the local gas station to carry helium to fill my balloons, they should be required to do so as well?

Anyone that stands on the side of flex fuel is a fucken idiot. Even the politicians on the hill have come to the realization that this was a bad idea even though they are not going to admit it for the most part. There is no debate about it the facts hands down prove this is worse for the enviorment and resouces comsumption etc. etc. than petroleum based fuel. Just 10% ethenol in your gas drops your mileage by 6 to 10 miles to the gallon. hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm Go research and read up on the actual facts not the bullshit they want you to believe wich is a lie. I have filled up 5 times with the crap alternating with a full tank of regular gas and on average I got 65 to 70 miles less per tank. That aint saving money or putting less polution in the air actual it puts more. hmmmmm

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Today, watching Democrats in Congress desperately try to stop any debate on alternative fuels, I'm convinced Democrats are trying to use high energy costs to socialize America.
Make energy costs so high 2/3rds of Americans can not afford it, then take 95% of the wealth from the richest (Excluding Democrat politicians).

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