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06-10-2008, 09:53 PM
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I'd rather pay taxes toward an Oil Refinery, than wasting it on Social Welfare Programs. And the idiot idea of National Healthcare.
After seeing what the Government's done with S/S and Medicare....  Only fools would turn over their Healthcare to them.
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Let's see. A report today says the cost of healthcare insurance to small businesses and individuals has increased 90% since 2001.
Wow, the Republican strategy of leaving the healthcare of small businesses, the heros of the US economy the Republicans claim to idolize for driving economic growth, to the for profit insurance industry has really helped the small business owner fail because his costs are rising much faster than inflation.
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06-11-2008, 04:06 AM
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Let's see. A report today says the cost of healthcare insurance to small businesses and individuals has increased 90% since 2001.
Wow, the Republican strategy of leaving the healthcare of small businesses, the heros of the US economy the Republicans claim to idolize for driving economic growth, to the for profit insurance industry has really helped the small business owner fail because his costs are rising much faster than inflation.
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In one State alone...We see a major reason of the Higher Costs, and why.
ANNAPOLIS -- State Comptroller William Donald Schaefer said yesterday that health care costs for illegal aliens in Maryland are much higher than reported - and taxpayers and consumers are footing this bill.
"I am very concerned over this," Mr. Schaefer told Maryland Budget Secretary James C. "Chip" DiPaula Jr. During a Board of Public Works meeting.
Mr. Schaefer, a Democrat, cited Department of Health and Mental Hygiene numbers that show Maryland paid $44 million last year for emergency care for illegal aliens.
Delegate Patrick L. McDonough, who has sought tougher laws on illegal immigration through a series of bills, has estimated that the total cost is closer to $100 million. He and Delegate Richard K. Impallaria, Baltimore County Republicans, plan to reintroduce legislation to learn the exact cost of services of those here illegally.
It's good to see a Democrat that can finally think. We need a lot more of them.
Now,,,back to the Main Topic. New Oil Refinerys. We need more of them, and access to our own Oil.
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06-11-2008, 10:55 AM
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In one State alone...We see a major reason of the Higher Costs, and why.
ANNAPOLIS -- State Comptroller William Donald Schaefer said yesterday that health care costs for illegal aliens in Maryland are much higher than reported - and taxpayers and consumers are footing this bill.
"I am very concerned over this," Mr. Schaefer told Maryland Budget Secretary James C. "Chip" DiPaula Jr. During a Board of Public Works meeting.
Mr. Schaefer, a Democrat, cited Department of Health and Mental Hygiene numbers that show Maryland paid $44 million last year for emergency care for illegal aliens.
Delegate Patrick L. McDonough, who has sought tougher laws on illegal immigration through a series of bills, has estimated that the total cost is closer to $100 million. He and Delegate Richard K. Impallaria, Baltimore County Republicans, plan to reintroduce legislation to learn the exact cost of services of those here illegally.
It's good to see a Democrat that can finally think. We need a lot more of them.
Now,,,back to the Main Topic. New Oil Refinerys. We need more of them, and access to our own Oil.
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Illegal aliens are buying health insurance in such numbers that the demand for health insurance has outstripped supply and that is the reason health insurance premiums have almost doubled????
Or are you invoking the "I'm a conservative, so economic theory works like I say it does, not like the theory says" card.
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06-11-2008, 08:07 PM
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Illegal aliens are buying health insurance in such numbers that the demand for health insurance has outstripped supply and that is the reason health insurance premiums have almost doubled????
Or are you invoking the "I'm a conservative, so economic theory works like I say it does, not like the theory says" card.
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Nope...I'm saying Illegal Trash is getting free medical treatment at Emergency Rooms paid for by Americans.
So is Mr. Schaefer: a Democrat, cited Department of Health and Mental Hygiene numbers that show Maryland paid $44 million last year for emergency care for illegal aliens.
Pay attention Mulp. 
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06-11-2008, 08:17 PM
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Nope...I'm saying Illegal Trash is getting free medical treatment at Emergency Rooms paid for by Americans.
So is Mr. Schaefer: a Democrat, cited Department of Health and Mental Hygiene numbers that show Maryland paid $44 million last year for emergency care for illegal aliens.
Pay attention Mulp. 
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This shoots the shit out of any "humanitarian aid" justification regarding Iraq...how many hours in Iraq to offset the cost to help ensure that we are surrounded by healthy people?

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06-11-2008, 08:26 PM
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This shoots the shit out of any "humanitarian aid" justification regarding Iraq...how many hours in Iraq to offset the cost to help ensure that we are surrounded by healthy people?

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I'm getting hard pressed to fathom the thought patterns of Liberals...  I started this about Oil Refinerys. Between you and Mulp, I've had to cover Illegal Trash abusing our Medical System, and now Iraq....
Try and concentrate on one topic at a time Folks. I know,,,it's a strain on both your attention spans...
I'm all for NEW OIL REFINERYS... Especially when we're dealing with using our own Resources...
Better now?
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06-11-2008, 09:16 PM
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Nope...I'm saying Illegal Trash is getting free medical treatment at Emergency Rooms paid for by Americans.
So is Mr. Schaefer: a Democrat, cited Department of Health and Mental Hygiene numbers that show Maryland paid $44 million last year for emergency care for illegal aliens.
Pay attention Mulp. 
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So that means oil company profits are reduced by $44M and that is the reason they haven't built an unneeded oil refinery?
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06-11-2008, 09:16 PM
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I'm getting hard pressed to fathom the thought patterns of Liberals... 
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No doubt it's a few fathoms too deep for you.
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I started this about Oil Refinerys. Between you and Mulp, I've had to cover Illegal Trash abusing our Medical System, and now Iraq.... 
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Lol, mister stay on topic.
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Try and concentrate on one topic at a time Folks. I know,,,it's a strain on both your attention spans...
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Why? Are you having problems keeping up?
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I'm all for NEW OIL REFINERYS... Especially when we're dealing with using our own Resources... 
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I thought that was already covered.
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Better now?
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...how many hours in Iraq to offset the cost to help ensure that we are surrounded by healthy people?
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06-11-2008, 09:23 PM
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No doubt it's a few fathoms too deep for you.
Lol, mister stay on topic.
Why? Are you having problems keeping up?
I thought that was already covered.

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1. It's a tad shallow for the most part in the Liberal end of the Pool.
2. I've done my best so far.
3. Nope, only being held back by stragglers. 
4.I thought so too.
Peace.
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06-11-2008, 09:27 PM
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K, I'll save the question for another thread.
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