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06-09-2008, 08:57 PM
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encana and conoco are about to expand one somewhere near there too. i think this also has to do with state regulation of polution control. it apears that some cant make it back east. i wasnt trying to argue either. if there were 300 and now theres only 149, then those old ones must either be in enviromentaly unfreindly states towards product refinement, or they were managed very poorly. moloybendnum is expensive, but it realy cracks the molecules.
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My main concern is using what "We" have available...Now. And building toward future alternatives when we can. 
It's surprising how quick we learn to adapt....When we have to.
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06-09-2008, 09:28 PM
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if there were 300 and now theres only 149, then those old ones must either be in enviromentaly unfreindly states towards product refinement, or they were managed very poorly. moloybendnum is expensive, but it realy cracks the molecules.
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I'm guessing that much of the environmental stuff is National but then perhaps not, now that you mention it...I've often wondered why there are more nuke plants in blue states than in red states...kind of an oxymoron, eh?
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06-09-2008, 09:47 PM
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like the yankee plant in mass? or the three mile island one. try the record for the ones in dem states is worse then the ones in rep states.
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06-09-2008, 09:49 PM
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My main concern is using what "We" have available...Now. And building toward future alternatives when we can.
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me too, but they didnt jump on the hydrogen band wagon until too late. kinda died when fdr had the hindenburg blown up. |
06-09-2008, 10:20 PM
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My main concern is using what "We" have available...Now. And building toward future alternatives when we can.
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me too, but they didnt jump on the hydrogen band wagon until too late. kinda died when fdr had the hindenburg blown up.
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Where's Father Ryan when ya' need 'em? He could forgive me for my sins...I find myself in agreement with Realist.
The oil companies convincing Eisenhower that we didn't need the hydrogen technology that could have been had from the Germans after WWII didn't help either.
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06-09-2008, 10:24 PM
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i dont idol ike either. nobody can forget hungary.
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06-10-2008, 05:30 AM
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Where's Father Ryan when ya' need 'em? He could forgive me for my sins...I find myself in agreement with Realist.
The oil companies convincing Eisenhower that we didn't need the hydrogen technology that could have been had from the Germans after WWII didn't help either.
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We have to make up for lost research time... I hope it wasn't too painful agreeing with me A.Y.S.E...
Take care.
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06-10-2008, 11:05 AM
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Mulp,,,you do nothing at all but piss and whine over Politics,,,and then have the audacity to accuse me of the same. 
I'm talking about accessing our own Resources. Becoming Independent again... The People Voted,,,It Passed. The money will be there to start the first Oil Refinery built in America in 30 years.
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So, you are an advocate of the voters voting to build oil refineries with taxpayer money.
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06-10-2008, 06:06 PM
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So, you are an advocate of the voters voting to build oil refineries with taxpayer money.
I'm sorry I didn't realize you were a socialist.
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I'd rather pay taxes toward an Oil Refinery, than wasting it on Social Welfare Programs. And the idiot idea of National Healthcare.
After seeing what the Government's done with S/S and Medicare....  Only fools would turn over their Healthcare to them.
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06-10-2008, 07:21 PM
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We have to make up for lost research time... I hope it wasn't too painful agreeing with me A.Y.S.E...
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Not at all, I enjoy being on the same page.
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I'd rather pay taxes toward an Oil Refinery, than wasting it on Social Welfare Programs. And the idiot idea of National Healthcare. |
Had a feeling it wouldn't last...I think some form of National Healthcare is a good thing...part of the problem in this argument is the way it is sold...oooohhhh boogabooga...socialism...whereas, there are many countries that have excellent affordable healthcare...not all "socialist".
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After seeing what the Government's done with S/S and Medicare.... Only fools would turn over their Healthcare to them.
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No shit...unbelievable that those idiots would put together a plan where you couldn't negotiate price...what kind of stupid shit was that?
Who did that?
...got any spare change?
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