like developing the fields off alaskas coast?

Look at the price of oil. It reflects the knowledge of the experts.

IF oil could be produced from all the places the conservative propagandists and penny stock promoters claim in their rehashed stories republished endlessly, then surely at least one smart guy with knowledge of how to profit from it would meet up with one smart guy with cash and they would be reaping billions in profits producing oil from those rich oil fields.

Jimmy Carter was president when the last major effort by global oil companies was made, with government funded corporate welfare to help out, to turn those vast oil fields into low cost oil so the US would become energy independent.

My guess is that when the oil engineers were laid off by the US oil giants in the 80s and 90s, the first ones targeted were those pushing oil production from such vast resources as the US oil shales.

Not what I had in mind but you probably already knew that.

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I'll answer you question on extracting the oil. In Long Beach CA., over 25 years ago they'd inject steam into tapped out pockets to glean the barrels of oil out...

Let's carry a known step further. Shale oil hasn't been worth the cost to extract it,,,until now. Again I'll pass on what I'll learned.

The Tri-State area has more oil then the entire Middle East. I'd rather spend my money on our own research and development, than piss it away to the Islamic Assholes right now.

Possibly,,,you might agree?:smile:

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You did not answer my questions and you ignored what I tried to share with you...you are obviously clueless on this topic which is fine but your obvious lack of willingness to learn leads me to conclude that conversing with you on this topic is a monumental waste of time...normally, I don't let that get in the way of presenting information because in explaining it to you someone else may benefit...however...repeating it shouldn't be necessary if they are paying attention so I won't bother...have a good day.

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Edit for correction.

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"All the problems we face in the United States today can be traced to an unenlightened immigration policy on the part of the American Indian."

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I answered you with this:

Originally Posted by Realist1
I'll answer you question on extracting the oil. In Long Beach CA., over 25 years ago they'd inject steam into tapped out pockets to glean the barrels of oil out...

Let's carry a known step further. Shale oil hasn't been worth the cost to extract it,,,until now. Again I'll pass on what I'll learned.

The Tri-State area has more oil then the entire Middle East. I'd rather spend my money on our own research and development, than piss it away to the Islamic Assholes right now.

Possibly,,,you might agree?

You present me with this drivel:

You did not answer my questions and you ignored what I tried to share with you...you are obviously clueless on this topic which is fine but your obvious lack of willingness to learn leads me to conclude that conversing with you on this topic is a monumental waste of time...normally, I don't let that get in the way of presenting information because in explaining it to you someone else may benefit...however...repeating it shouldn't be necessary if they are paying attention so I won't bother...have a good day.[/QUOTE



If you ever find one,,,have a good day.

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Bullshit...

I've shared with you that there is a big difference between tar sands and shale oil...both in formation type and product type contained in each.

I've explained why the conventional steaming such as they use in Long Beach is irrelevant in recovery in the shale...a process I was involved in over 25 years ago.

I've provided you with a study that shows we are not yet able to commercially produce the shale that we have...it is too deep for strip mining economically and the in situ process is still in the test phases.

And in the past, I and others have explained about oil being a world market commodity...and...that for the most part, the companies that will likely get involved in producing it are International companies anyway.

You choose to ignore all of that and the best you can come up with is "drivel"...

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Like,,,developing ALL the known oil fields off our Coasts... We claim a200 mile Region as ours. As the rest of the Coastal Nations do around the Planet.

Where's the problem?

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Not a problem as far as I'm concerned...talk to Jeb Bush as far as Florida goes...in the meantime how about you provide some statistics on these "known oil fields"...what exactly are you referring to?

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