Interesting theory. Who would pay them? And what would prevent them from resorting to outright cruelty and brutality against a population? Or do you assume that illegal immigrants deserve torture and death in addition to deportation?

Mr. Grey - you will find that AHOLEcrowley only posts links and cust and pastes off the net. He gives no opinions or insight of what he feels or offers any solutions.

He is a Wanker!!

Regarding your origal post. I can not argue with it to much. They only way the consumer is to fight back in this situation, as it is a goverment contract, is with a vote for or against a politician or party who gives the contact to a certain contractor. The goverenment expects these contractors to be able to handle these huge somes of money / contracts in an efficient manner. I think it would be better off to hand more, smaller contracts to more contractors. They are not then hit with a huge some that they spend irresponsibly jsut to use up the money allocated. While this is not as easy and may be more expensive and less efficient, in the long run it woudl provide a better quality product for the consumer / tax payer. To effect the change we can only use our vote against politicians / lobiests that represnt companies like halliburton.

There is no easy way to do this / exept not get into a war such as this in the first place. But until we put ourselves in a position where we do not need foregien oil, we are going to have to defend ourselves / the resources we need. That is the underlying problem.

Here's a solution:

US troops out of the ME NOW.

All neocon chickenhawks stand before the ICC on charges of War Crimes.

End all US Foreign Aid to Israel and Egypt.

Outlaw War Profiteering.

Israel must withdraw from the Occupied Territories.

Disband the Neocon's private army of mercenaries, Blackwater Inc.

Very Good AWHOLE - Almost a full thought. Now lets go at these one at a time.

US troops out of the middle east. - How much are you willing to pay for a gallon of gas? Are you prepared to have Iran control the region and have control of the oil??

War Crimes - You then agree that Saddam, AchmedIamanutjob, Kim JongIl, many of the leaders in many different countries in Africa who are waging civel war and killing civilians,.... the list goes on and onand on......should be tried for war crimes??

Regarding AID to Isreal and Egypt you will have to be more specific about why. And then do we stop all aid to other countries as well??

War Profetering - Gee I agree with you there. Imagine that.

Isreal must withdraw troops from the occupied territories - I agree as long as their neighbors including IRAN stop attacking them and acknowledge there right to exist as a country. The killing on both sides must stop (extreemests on both sides)

Private Armies - paid contractores / mecineries same thing but they have there place. If we send additional / legitimate troops to take their place and finish the job than I agree with you. WOW twice in one thread.

You are getting better keep it going. Your mommy is doing good coaching you. Think out of the box now. How do we do these things? What are the ramifications (list them out) and are you willing to accept them? You can do it come on, you are almost there!!

You wanker

".............Hyuk!"

How much oil do we get from Iraq?

While I do not agree with Crowley's methods, I do have to disagree with you on many aspects of the following:


US troops out of the middle east. - How much are you willing to pay for a gallon of gas? Are you prepared to have Iran control the region and have control of the oil??

Hm. Well let's see here, if there's a direct correlation between human life and the price of oil, as you put here, then I'm pretty much willing to ride a bike or pay X dollars a gallon, where X equals not having to kill other people to make my commute easier.

Iran has little control over us if we are not as dependant on oil, regardless hwo much they come to control. We can keep invading people and butchering them over the dwindling puddles that will remain on this earth, or we can fight to sever the ties alltogether and immasculate Iran through not needing to worry about whether they have all the oil or none of it.

I'm not saying its that simple of course, and we can talk more about Iran in detail later.

War Crimes - You then agree that Saddam, AchmedIamanutjob, Kim JongIl, many of the leaders in many different countries in Africa who are waging civel war and killing civilians,.... the list goes on and onand on......should be tried for war crimes??

Well let's see here... Kim Jong Il has continued his father's barbaric, godlike rule over North Korea, starvign millions upon millions each year to keep his nightmarish grip on power.

Is he really comprable to Amehdinajad who is largely a figurehead for a largely corrupt government in a country that isn't suffering from mass genocide issues?

It isn't that the US is the worst thing ever for invading Iraq...it's just that we can do so much better, and given our resources, its shameful that we don't.

War Profetering - Gee I agree with you there. Imagine that.

That's a big part of what this thread is about.

Isreal must withdraw troops from the occupied territories - I agree as long as their neighbors including IRAN stop attacking them and acknowledge there right to exist as a country. The killing on both sides must stop (extreemests on both sides)

I'm sort of in agreement with you here. But remember that the US has basically backed only ONE side in what you seem to feel is a two-sided conflict. We need to make a better faith effort to acknowledge Iran's right to exist, Palestine's right to be united, and Israel's ability to be wrong on occaison before we make high-minded claims about what everybody has to do.

Private Armies - paid contractores / mecineries same thing but they have there place. If we send additional / legitimate troops to take their place and finish the job than I agree with you. WOW twice in one thread.

Well wait, what is their place? I haven't heard any real reason to have them there at all other than protection from proper oversight on the part of any body, military or private.


You wanker

Proudly so, though I know that wasn't directed at me.

Not sure how much from IRAQ but it would be very little. But you need to look at the big picture and the entire gulf region region not just IRAQ. I am sure you can find some statistic on the net and cut and paste a link. Think of what happens to the global market if the oil reserves are turnerd over to AchmedIamanutjob or other extreemists? What if they only sell it to China who needs it desperately. What does that do to the price of oil globally. Big picture now. Open your eyes wide and think of the ramifications outside of our little world here in the US and what happens glabally and how does that effect things while you are standing there fuilling up your mommies car for her.

Your still a wanker but trying to break out of your shell. Your mommie and I are so proud of you!!

Cletus,

You think Condi's Stick-waving at Iran is going to assure we get their oil?


Do you even know where the US gets its oil?

AHOLECrowley - I am waiting you to elightenus all with one of your famous cut and pasttes indicateing the detailed breakdown of where the US gets it's crude oil from. Hurry now we are all waiting!!! Already indicated above that I did not know how much oil we got from Iraq. Did mommy not read you that part of the above post.

ANd were did the subject of Condi come up??? Stay on subject now or provide soem more details instead of just one sentence. You are falling back to your old ways. I will have to talk to your mother again about your behavier.