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05-01-2008, 07:23 PM
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Only conservatives would think that fewer people working to support the rest is a good plan....
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No, conservatives believe in people doing as much as possible to take care of themselves. It's Socialism that believes the few should support the many.
It's not hard to understand why socialism/social programs fail and destroy countries from within. Quite simply, socialism benefits the lazy! It's really that simple. The people that do not to pull their own weight/fair share still benefit from those who do. The more people that sponge off of social programs the worse our economy is just as it's been proved in every country that's tried it.
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05-01-2008, 07:35 PM
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It's not hard to understand why socialism/social programs fail and destroy countries from within.
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>>>Utter nonsense. Western Europe, Australia, Canada and even China are all doing fine. And they have been for quite some time now. But if you insist on legislating billionaires, I'm going to insist on taxing 'em.
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05-01-2008, 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Tileman
No, conservatives believe in people doing as much as possible to take care of themselves. It's Socialism that believes the few should support the many.
It's not hard to understand why socialism/social programs fail and destroy countries from within. Quite simply, socialism benefits the lazy! It's really that simple. The people that do not to pull their own weight/fair share still benefit from those who do. The more people that sponge off of social programs the worse our economy is just as it's been proved in every country that's tried it.
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So, with the percentage of people working increasing and reaching its peak during the Clinton administration, he is the one that promoted the conservative values of self-reliance, and as Bush has driven down employment during his term in office, he has been promoting socialism?
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05-01-2008, 09:31 PM
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Political Novice
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Originally Posted by mulp
Only conservatives would think that fewer people working to support the rest is a good plan....
Employment rates, the percentage of people over age 16 that are working
Then again, maybe the 60s with all the liberalism was a much better decade for the nation than the years after the Reagan election when it became a requirement that two people in each household work so the family just scrapes by....
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Nice graph Ross, leave the pie charts at home again. The 60's were the worst thing that ever happened to this country but we're fixing that.
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05-02-2008, 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by George O Well
>>>Utter nonsense. Western Europe, Australia, Canada and even China are all doing fine. And they have been for quite some time now. But if you insist on legislating billionaires, I'm going to insist on taxing 'em.
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If the US banned all imports from China and Canada, Canada would collapse, China would be hit hard. 
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05-02-2008, 04:49 PM
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I am not sure that we are in a recession or not but the Democrats have been saying we are for the last 7 years. I guess that if I am not in power then it is bad regardless.
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05-09-2008, 04:18 PM
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Or perhaps it was the "liberal" ideology" that prompted the "mothers" to leave their families as the base of morality in such, to join the work force in a false show of "equality". The result, no one at home to provide the continued moral support of a valid family life and thus often producing two income earners in one family with the family right across the street living under traditional American values with the man alone working, not able to find gainful employment because the woman in the two income family has taken the job away form the sole bread winner of the family just across the street, thus producing the haves and the have nots in todays society. Again proving the ignorance of liberal thinking, searching and demanding equality resulted in anything but equal status of the common person. Now it is accepted practice of the two working....yet all we hear is the constant whining and bitching and complaining thereof.....Yes indeed, you've come a long way BABY. Typical communist propaganda. BD
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This is a rather interesting reengineering of history. With exception to the elite class, woman have always been in the workforce.
Post after post on this board has self-identified conservatives twisting an exception into a rule in some sort of self-justification ritual, does anyone else find this odd?
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05-09-2008, 07:00 PM
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I am not sure that we are in a recession or not but the Democrats have been saying we are for the last 7 years. I guess that if I am not in power then it is bad regardless.
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Well, Democrats are clearly simply, as Obama put it, depending on the intellectual prowness of Reagan supporters. It is the man who, working for Reagan on his economic policies, coined the term Reaganomics.
So, the father of Reaganomics is the one who declared the US to be in recession for the entire 21st century.
But then again, you might say he has an axe to grind, because he wants to preserve the Reagan economic legacy, something that the Gringrich revolution and the Bush Republicans are basically demolishing and destroying.
Of course, he is hardly alone. Another conservative Republican and Reagan backer, Kevin Philips, has been condemning the corrupt conservative Republican economic policies for years.
My guess is that if the Reagan of 1970 were reincarnated today, he would run against McCain and Bush.
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05-09-2008, 07:08 PM
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My guess is that if the Reagan of 1970 were reincarnated today, he would run against McCain and Bush.
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Right or wrong, what Reagan stood for as the Gov or CA was not close to what is going on today.
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05-09-2008, 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by PPark
This is a rather interesting reengineering of history. With exception to the elite class, woman have always been in the workforce.
Post after post on this board has self-identified conservatives twisting an exception into a rule in some sort of self-justification ritual, does anyone else find this odd?
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No only you. And your apparent femininity. BD
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