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Old 04-17-2008, 05:31 PM
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This pisses me off on so many levels. Why the government subsidizes people living in flood zones is beyond me. It is bad for the people, bad for the environment, it makes getting flood insurance in non-flood zones terribly expensive, it encourages people to build houses in disaster prone areas. It is just bad policy all around.

But there you go, it is all too typical government policy.
Not to worry!
Since the disaster in New Orleans, FEMA has made many changes to the Flood Insurance program.
It's no longer a free ride.
Many foreclosures are due to the fact people can no longer afford flood Insurance in flood prone areas.
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Old 04-17-2008, 05:32 PM
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Exxon Mobile You simple minded lunatic has still never paid for the Exxon Valdez oil spill after all these years. They have appealed this thing in court till most of the people they ruined are dead.

You really are a immoral very unintelligent man.

Sure jobs are good , but considering the fact Exxon was ordered to pay less than one years profit out to the peoples whose lively hoods they ruined 20 some years ago and still have not paid the first dime after all this time. Forgive me if I do not think highly of exxon Mobile. In fact I only use BP gas.

The American gas companies have all been a bunch of immoral crooks , killing people in 3rd world country with cancer over oil is not my idea of a good corporate citizen you immoral stupid little man.
15K per person harmed has been paid already.

So it isn't like they haven't paid (they have paid 3.5 billion). The question is whether they paid enough.

Personally, I think, probably not. I would need an economist to determine what is fair, but at the same time this should not be treated like a lottery.

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Old 04-17-2008, 05:36 PM
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Yeah , its real tough on all those millionaires now with their beach front properties.

I heard warren beatty griping on TV just the other day that his beach front 4 million dollar estate was now costing him 40% more in flood insurance.

Ah, well soon all the old folks in florida that can no longer pay $3K a year to flood insure their mobile home will have to sell and make way for more millionaires to buy up those prime beach lots.

That way we will only be subsidizing flood insurance for the rich people at tax payers expense.

Just like is happening in New Orleans now.

They want all that beach front land, and they don't mind a bit that tax payers subsidize flood insurance for say a casino.

Just make sure we don't subsidize for ma and pa John Q public in their retirement mobile home. The audacity of them thinking we would.
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Old 04-17-2008, 05:36 PM
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It is a fact the majority of public water supplies in this country are tax payer built.

Your well, and my well simpleton are not public water supplies. They are private water supplies. Go look up the words private and public Nathan maybe the difference will start to sink in.

City and county water supplies are always built with tax payer money. Nathan you really must be simple minded to not know this fact.

Go do a little research you half illiterate man. All public water systems were funded with either state or federal tax money.

That is why we have been able to resist them selling them off to private corporations. They have tried. But in other countries where tax payer water systems have been sold to private corporations it turned into a big flop. So thankfully the US has never went that far.

Ever heard of the PUC Nathan ? Apparently not. The public Utilities commission is what is is Nathan. They over see all public financed utilities in every state. You know stuff like the tax payer funded public water systems , you poor simple man.

Excuse me you arrogant twit but taxpayer dollars do not support public utilities. That is the reason we all get electric and water bills each month.
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Yeah , its real tough on all those millionaires now with their beach front properties.

I heard warren beatty griping on TV just the other day that his beach front 4 million dollar estate was now costing him 40% more in flood insurance.

Ah, well soon all the old folks in florida that can no longer pay $3K a year to flood insure their mobile home will have to sell and make way for more millionaires to buy up those prime beach lots.

That way we will only be subsidizing flood insurance for the rich people at tax payers expense.

Just like is happening in New Orleans now.

They want all that beach front land, and they don't mind a bit that tax payers subsidize flood insurance for say a casino.

Just make sure we don't subsidize for ma and pa John Q public in their retirement mobile home. The audacity of them thinking we would.
You know, why shouldn't they be able to abuse the system like poor people?

But you know my position, do away with the friggin program all together finally.
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Trust me I built homes for many moons.

15 K is not enough. For instance if the roof blew off there is a good probability that heat pumps and garages were damaged by flying stuff in the winds as well.

Have you priced a heat pump installed lately?

10 K might cover it in the midwest.


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15K per person harmed has been paid already.

So it isn't like they haven't paid (they have paid 3.5 billion). The question is whether they paid enough.

Personally, I think, probably not. I would need an economist to determine what is fair, but at the same time this should not be treated like a lottery.

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Trust me I built homes for many moons.

15 K is not enough. For instance if the roof blew off there is a good probability that heat pumps and garages were damaged by flying stuff in the winds as well.

Have you priced a heat pump installed lately?

10 K might cover it in the midwest.
But Exxon Valdez didn't damage any homes, it prevented people from earning a living by fishing. The amount should be enough to offset the net earnings of people whose livliehoods were damaged or whose property was destroyed.

Nothing more.
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Old 04-17-2008, 05:42 PM
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Excuse me you arrogant twit but taxpayer dollars do not support public utilities. That is the reason we all get electric and water bills each month.

Yes , Simpleton all public water systems in this country for many years have been built with tax payer money.

What do you think all these grants are to improve water systems coming from the government?

To begin with most were funded by state taxes and the feds pitch in with matching grants for expansions and upgrades.

Will somebody tell this simpleton how public utilities work?
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Old 04-17-2008, 05:50 PM
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Exxon Mobile You simple minded lunatic has still never paid for the Exxon Valdez oil spill after all these years. They have appealed this thing in court till most of the people they ruined are dead.

You really are a immoral very unintelligent man.

Sure jobs are good , but considering the fact Exxon was ordered to pay less than one years profit out to the peoples whose lively hoods they ruined 20 some years ago and still have not paid the first dime after all this time. Forgive me if I do not think highly of exxon Mobile. In fact I only use BP gas.

The American gas companies have all been a bunch of immoral crooks , killing people in 3rd world country with cancer over oil is not my idea of a good corporate citizen you immoral stupid little man.

What the fuck does the Exxon Valdez have to do with your using fuel. You twit, I was using them as an example of what corporations provide. You may not like them but for millions of people they provide jobs and an energy source. You really are a mindless fucking twit

Everybody in your opinion are crooks, if they have a dime in their pocket from being entrepeuers you dispise them. With your business attitude I would say if you are telling the truth about your business I would bet the farm you went out of business.

You moved to the right state. You have KKK Sheets Byrd taking tax dollars from the rest of the country to feed all of you shoeless hicks lapping at the trough of public largess.

You are a worthless worthless soul.
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Will somebody tell this simpleton how public utilities work?
Which ones? PG&E?
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