Where's the Rothschilds, and Rockefellers?

PLeasant · #1 (**permalink**) 03-05-2008, 07:36 PM

At an estimated value of over $2 trillion, the Rothschild family fortune far exceeds any of the rest of the worlds wealthiest people. The next closest are the Rockefellers (incidently, these two families are related) coming in at around $300 billion. Yet where are they on Forbes latest list of billionaires?

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The truth is you will never see their names on any of the "wealthiest" lists. Why? Because for nearly a century these families have either payed or otherwise influenced the publishers of these listings to keep their wealth a secret. Now why would they want to do that?

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basharp1 · #2 (**permalink**) 03-05-2008, 10:58 PM

The Gallows wait to have its say..............to all the people, traitors of the day...........Hang em High for all to see......................they've burried you and they've burried me.................The Slavery of Interest..........its Daunting me...........The Slavery of Interest.....................the Slavery of Interest..................the Slavery of Interest.

mulp · #3 (**permalink**) 03-05-2008, 11:42 PM

The listing is for people, not corporations.

Unless you have a specific Rothchild that is worth $2 trillion in mind.

PLeasant · #4 (**permalink**) 03-06-2008, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by mulp

The listing is for people, not corporations.

Unless you have a specific Rothchild that is worth $2 trillion in mind.

You're missing the point mulp. Between the banking house of NM and Sons, the multitude of Swiss accounts, and literally thousands of worldwide investments owned by the "House of Rothschild." Nobody knows for sure how much any of them are worth individually. I suppose you could divide 2 trillion among the number of people from the current generation in control of these assets. I'm not going to take the time to, but I assure you they would take up the entire top ten and then some.

Teak · #5 (**permalink**) 03-06-2008, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by PLeasant

Because for nearly a century these families have either payed or otherwise influenced the publishers of these listings to keep their wealth a secret. Now why would they want to do that?

I'm not anywhere near their level, nor will I ever be, but my name ended up on a local "List". As a result I was hounded for months , by every charity, non-profit group, and just plain mooch, in the area.

Believe me, PLeasant, you would keep your name off such lists, too.

mulp · #6 (**permalink**) 03-06-2008, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by PLeasant

You're missing the point mulp. Between the banking house of NM and Sons, the multitude of Swiss accounts, and literally thousands of worldwide investments owned by the "House of Rothschild." Nobody knows for sure how much any of them are worth individually. I suppose you could divide 2 trillion among the number of people from the current generation in control of these assets. I'm not going to take the time to, but I assure you they would take up the entire top ten and then some.

Well, I guess you just missed the fact that you need to look for the Rothschilds under Arab names:

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Sovereign-wealth funds
The new Rothschilds

Sep 27th 2007
From The Economist print edition
State-run funds are pumping money into the financial sector

WHEN credit is tight, cash is a powerful weapon. No one is better armed than sovereign-wealth funds, a loose term to describe state-run investment pools, which have an estimated $2 trillion-3 trillion under management and are playing an increasingly muscular—and controversial—role in cross-border investment.

Middle Eastern money has been particularly active. Witness the Byzantine struggle between Borse Dubai, a firm backed by the emirate's government, and the Qatar Investment Authority, for the title of the Middle East's financial hub. They have both built big stakes in OMX, a Nordic exchange operator, and the London Stock Exchange. Borse Dubai, meanwhile, hopes to get a 20% holding in NASDAQ, an American exchange.

Those willy Jews became Arabs....

mulp · #7 (**permalink**) 03-06-2008, 09:34 PM

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The Rothschilds Are on a Roll (int'l edition)
Small is beautiful when it means personal service

'Schroder. Morgan Grenfell. Warburg. Fleming. Kleinwort Benson.'' Sitting in his modest Paris office a stone's throw from the Elysees Palace, David de Rothschild ticks off the names of once independent European investment houses that have slipped into the embrace of huge banks. ''They're all gone. We and Lazard are the only ones left.''

On the face of it, this harsh landscape bodes ill for the 58-year-old chairman of Rothschild & Cie Banque and his cousin, Evelyn de Rothschild, chairman of NM Rothschild & Sons, the clan's London-based branch. The fabled Rothschild name was once synonymous with prodigious wealth and power. Today, the Rothschilds head a group whose employees number just 550. The likes of Goldman Sachs, Morgan Stanley Dean Witter, and Citigroup dwarf it. Despite having its best year ever for mergers and acquisitions, the Rothschild group's total investment banking profit for 2000 will be barely $200 million, a fraction of what the big boys take home. With such competition, Rothschild ''is going to be very fragile in the long run,'' says one prominent banker in Paris.

Still, the Rothschilds are on a roll. As their larger rival, Lazard Freres, struggles to keep business amid staff defections and shareholder dissent, the Rothschilds seem to be not only holding their own but expanding. This momentum follows a long, difficult period from the mid-1980s when the Paris branch rebuilt after it was nationalized under Socialist President Francois Mitterrand.

The Rothschilds know the dynasty Amschel Rothschild founded in a Frankfurt ghetto can never dominate European banking as it did in the 19th century. But through astute hiring, care and feeding of key staff and clients, and selective pushes into core markets, Rothschild is grabbing deals not only from Lazard--which has nearly five times its headcount--but from some truly big banks. ''We are very much around and doing things our way,'' says Evelyn, 69, the elder statesman of the clan. David, who runs the group's bread-and-butter investment-banking business, is expected to become chairman of NM Rothschild when Evelyn retires.

To stay in the game, the Rothschilds --London and Paris partnerships controlled by the respective family branches and linked by cross-shareholdings (chart)--are banking on the rareness of their brand of service. ''Let's say the cultural alternatives to the more and more uniform and bureaucratized firms are now much reduced,'' says David.

GRAPHIC: All in the Family

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Rothschilds control half the world's wealth directly and indirectly
using zionist proxies, and loyalty based on the zionist racist cult

I'm sure that you are convinced, like the above author, that the Rothschilds control half the world and are behind a socialist plot to take over the wealth of non-Jews, but it does seem a little bizzare that their financial empire was nationalized by a Socialist government. I suppose you think that was a clever ploy to conceal their wealth by transferring all their assets to the French government which the Rothschilds totally control.

PLeasant · #8 (**permalink**) 03-07-2008, 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by mulp

GRAPHIC: All in the Family

I'm sure that you are convinced, like the above author, that the Rothschilds control half the world and are behind a socialist plot to take over the wealth of non-Jews, but it does seem a little bizzare that their financial empire was nationalized by a Socialist government. I suppose you think that was a clever ploy to conceal their wealth by transferring all their assets to the French government which the Rothschilds totally control.

I'm not saying any of that mulp. But I think a healthy amount of speculation, combined with reasoning would tell you that the Rothschilds, or any bank owner, would never allow the French government to usurp their fortune without the exchange of some fairly sizable concessions. What those were/are I have no idea.

Bare in mind that the Balfour Declaration of 1917 was delivered to Walter Rothschild. As it was their fortune that bank rolled the inception of the zionist movement. If I wanted proof that the Rothschilds would use their wealth to "buy a country." One need to look no further than Israel.

George O Well · #9 (**permalink**) 03-07-2008, 10:39 AM

In a nutshell, America entered WWI because the Brits wanted to be able to move their troops to the Middle East at the behest of the Rothschilds. In exchange for British help in establishing a Jewish homeland in the area (a lot of Brits were in favor of a Jewish homeland because many, including Balfour and Churchill, were anti-semitic and thought the Jews would leave), the Jews would use every means to draw the U.S. into the war, including boycotting German goods in the U.S. and threatening Woody Wilson with publication of dirty pictures of Wilson with his mistress. The Lusitania came first and there was no longer any need to publish the pictures.

mulp · #10 (**permalink**) 03-09-2008, 03:51 PM

So, I guess the Jews in the US kept the secret that Germany was killing millions of Jews so that this would give them political power as victims after the war was over?