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02-07-2008, 01:24 AM
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I wonder, other than a few on this forum why MY COUNTRY IS GOING TO SHIT, Then I look @ http://www.arguewitheveryone.com...................if this is charastic of the populace on this forum WERE FUCKED
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02-07-2008, 03:32 AM
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Show me what the Federal Reserve Regulates. last I checked any entity that has no limits can not regulate anything.
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First the Fed has limits set by Congress and Congress can at any time legislate the actions of the Fed (and it does every time it orders the Fed to buy US treasury bonds so more Federal Reserve Notes can be issued but I won't discuss that here; too complicated).
Second can the Fed establish an interest rate? Does that rate effect (disincentive or incentive) the actions of a Bank or person?
If the answer is yes....
Then it is a regulator.
Are we clear?
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02-07-2008, 03:38 AM
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Originally Posted by basharp1
"They are a regulatory institution" please.................they are a room of men .................................................w hom govern the lives..................of.................all..... ........................................they whom hold no allegiance to no man flag or country........................................... .................................................. ..they hold in their hands the very lives that befall them......................................the old monarchs of today...................that keep................what they believe is theirs.........................and print.................and loan..................................and charge..............................the very thing they hold as holly..............................
at no risk to them.................
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FRB: Governor Warsh Looks like a regular US Citizen to me...
FRB: Governor Kroszner Another average Joe
FRB: Governor Mishkin Another exceptional American
FRB: Vice Chairman Kohn Even more exceptional American
FRB: Chairman Bernanke Yep an American here too...
Where are all these countryless men you're talking about with no allegiances?
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02-07-2008, 08:18 PM
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SouthernPlanter;
These people that make up the Federal Reserve our not the people, I'm talking about. A point could be made that Zionist Jews have ran the Fed practically since its creation in Dec. 22 1913 while most were home for the Holiday season. Greenspan and now Bernanke. Let me school you on the Federal Reserve:
YouTube - Corrupt Federal Reserve - Robbing Americans Since 1913 [1/3]
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"The conservative movement has been hijacked and turned into a globalist, interventionist, open borders ideology, which is not the conservative movement I grew up with." Pat Buchanan
"The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government"
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02-07-2008, 08:22 PM
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More on the Federal Reserve; google it, youtube it...............the info is there.....
YouTube - The Federal Reserve
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"The conservative movement has been hijacked and turned into a globalist, interventionist, open borders ideology, which is not the conservative movement I grew up with." Pat Buchanan
"The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government"
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02-07-2008, 08:34 PM
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Paul Warburg;
The Federal Reserve Kingspin................what do ya know............a Zionist Jew
James Paul Warburg (August 18, 1896 - June 3, 1969) was an American banker and financial adviser to Franklin D. Roosevelt. His father was the Jewish-German-American banker Paul Moritz Warburg.
For only making up roughly 2% of our population, they are stronger than we are, Media, Finance, governments.
Henry Ford Sr. warned us along time ago about the times we are in today, what 1884?
THE INTERNATIONAL JEW - THE WORLD'S FOREMOST PROBLEM
International Jewry and Zionism is not a Race or Religion it is an Ideology that is destroying Mankind.
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02-07-2008, 08:41 PM
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"The conservative movement has been hijacked and turned into a globalist, interventionist, open borders ideology, which is not the conservative movement I grew up with." Pat Buchanan
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02-07-2008, 08:48 PM
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Donald Kohn
Another Zionist Jew; Is this for America or is that why Israel gets over $37million a day from American Tax Payers. No more of my Tax dollars and no more American Blood to fight the Zionist, racist, Nationalist, Imperialist, Jewish Supremist movement. They like all others, can fend for themselves. Let free markets be free, let civilization be free, it would be the best for the world
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"I hope our wisdom will grow with our power, and teach us, that the less we use our power the greater it will be." Thomas Jefferson
"The conservative movement has been hijacked and turned into a globalist, interventionist, open borders ideology, which is not the conservative movement I grew up with." Pat Buchanan
"The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government"
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02-07-2008, 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by SouthernPlanter
The US has lost a lot of money in depreciation and needs free or rather; cheaper capital to off-set the losses, ride out the storm and make some money back so they can pay off those debts and obligations.
What's wrong with the Fed decision?
I doubt you're cut-throat enough to have been a Broker in the times before regulatory institutions such as the FED and SEC.
Back in those days there was real trading and real scamming going on...ruining the country. We should be so thankful.
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Southern Planter, with all due respect you are not that bright.
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02-08-2008, 05:32 AM
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Originally Posted by SouthernPlanter
First the Fed has limits set by Congress and Congress can at any time legislate the actions of the Fed (and it does every time it orders the Fed to buy US treasury bonds so more Federal Reserve Notes can be issued but I won't discuss that here; too complicated).
Second can the Fed establish an interest rate? Does that rate effect (disincentive or incentive) the actions of a Bank or person?
If the answer is yes....
Then it is a regulator.
Are we clear?
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The Federal Reserve is a Corporation. Governmental Regulatory Institutions do not sell shares to the private sector. As the Federal Reserve does.
Regulation is the act of regulating something. The Federal Reserve supposedly regulates the value of Federal Reserve Notes. It does not regulate the value. It prints and cirrculates money. The by product of their actions is the only thing regulated.
Symantics aside. Noone has any regulation over the value of our currency. Our Currency (Federal Reserve Notes) are regulated by consumer demand, Inflation, Foreign Markets and Government Deficits.
How can someone regulate the value of something that can not be controlled or regulated? Such as federal Reserve notes. It opens up a can of worms when you realize the cost of inflation to our monetary policy and the dangers it poses to our savings.
Truth is, the Federal Reserve has never been audited by Congress. Meetings of some components of the Fed are held behind closed doors, and the transcripts are released with a lag of five years.
The money we use is "regulated" by countless entities and phenomenon that determine the value of our money. Mostly, by the amount of it in cirrculation which is usually, ultimately determined by foreign central banks.
Ask yourself again, what does the Federal Reserve Regulate? Invisible Interest Rates? Value of Federal Reserve Notes?
Nope. Truth is our money is in a strangle hold since we got off of the Gold and Silver Standards of the 1970s.
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