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Old 01-24-2008, 10:23 AM
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Yeah, that helps. Lets see, a nice seafood restaurant down the block, hmmmm. Well, that narrows it down to about 80% of the city.
There is some subsidized housing in areas you wouldn't think there would be. There are programs where landlords, brokers, etc receive local and state funds to open a portion of some housing developments to section 8 participants.
I know of one condo located on the Hillsborough River that is very nice and offers some subsidized units. But to be fair, the majority of the boats docked in the back probably don't belong to those families.
First, remember, this was in the mid (or earlier) 80s...several HUGE subsidized housing projects here have been shut down or sold to private operators to turn into apartments (some subsidized, some not). The buildings I saw were old... so they'd prolly been there since the 60s. I can't imagine a place like that would've suvived into today as subsidized housing...the local economy (as much of the national economy) was pretty depressed as I recall...and you've had quite a building boom (again) since then.

This was, as far as this desert-born and bred feller can say, "prime" oceanfront property....if some developer did not manage to get it turned over...your developers are not as smart as mine.

Neener, neener!

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Old 01-24-2008, 11:42 AM
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Not all localities have gambling. Do-gooders are trying to do away with tobacco in any form. Alcohol will probably be one of the next things to go with the "we know better than you how you should be free to live your life" crowd. And narcotics, well, if you're good and faced, who cares about schools?
Now where does the money come from?
Why would a Local Legislature be allowed to stop a retailer from selling Alcohol or stopping someone from building a Casino or some form of Gambling? Let alone Narcotics if they are decriminalized.

If they outlaw tax sources, they can do without. I doubt the large cities who would need that much money would outlaw anything they can tax. Only small towns with a sheriff and a handful of Goober Deputies would apply. And I doubt the costs to police a town of a couple thousand range into the mutli-millions...


As I did say, Public Schooling is a big problem that could be completely privatized and all the money in the world we need to throw at Education we would have to give to studends in Vouchers.

Of course when you rethink the purpose of Government and bring it down into a manageable and non-intrusive size. There would be more money to go around, and better services for your tax dollars.

I do imagine if you believe your local Football team needs 100 million for a stadium or billions more for corporate handouts than we won't get nowhere. Government waste and Government size are the issue, not actually taxation.

The more they can take from you, the less power the individual citizen has. As has been shown, you give Government a Dollar, the waste a million and exert more control over the populace.
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Old 01-24-2008, 11:45 AM
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Go to your local Government's City or County hall. I'm sure you can get some record of city expenditures.

Look at what it should not be spending money on. Then take a look at extravagant expenditures, like limo drivers for the mayor or County Clerk and such. Then get a record of Property and Local Income Taxes ( if any ).

It adds up to neither of them being needed.
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Old 01-26-2008, 09:52 AM
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Interesting how this topic was diverted...nearly as interesting as how you are not hearing much about this "crisis" right now...

Is it because:
A. There is no "crisis",
B. The left-advocacy media, on orders, is holding this back for late summer, early fall ahead of the election,
C. The leftists have decided it's a non-starter and will instead hope for inflation and a crashing economy?

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