Originally Posted by Tokenconservative

I don't see any reason to tighten it further. I works very well the way it is. Of course, your bretheren on the left, want to roll things back to pre-1994...and have been doing yeomanlike work toward that end since....well, let's see...um, 1994.

When you help elect socialists to both the White House and give them a majority in Congress, given that every years since 1994, the socialists have intro'd legislation to roll back welfare reform..um, I'm just curious: what do YOU think will happen?

Able-bodied young men (or wymyn): No, they should not. That's what I said. I did not say they CURRENTLY were. They WILL be once you help put socialists in charge, though (I was referencing pre-1994 conditions where they most assuredly did get welfare...for life, if they wanted, and many did).

Policing: I believe we SHOULD, though. And we should drug-test those on welfare. If you live in subsidized housing, it is not YOUR house, and so you should give up certain rights...there should be Projects Police who can knock on your door at 2 am and demand to see who is sleeping there. If someone is sleeping there who does not have permission, you should be put out on the street.

The "debt": Social programs outlays combined, dwarf military outlays. Have since The Great Society. I don't see that changing anytime soon, do you?

Illegals: it's both a security and a legal problem. It's less a security (national) problem than a legal one. There is not reason to permit these people to stay here. BOTH sides (it was called Bush-KENNEDY, you may recall) are treasonous in this regard and those at the top, as they have colluded with an invading enemy, should be treated as what they are: traitors. This, in my opinion, includes Bush. But it also includes MOST Dems.

Tokie

Originally Posted by Cookie Parker

The republican congress were socialists? ROFLMFAO!!!!

You don't know your head from your ass, Tokei

Originally Posted by Tokenconservative

I don't see any reason to tighten it further. I works very well the way it is. Of course, your bretheren on the left, want to roll things back to pre-1994...and have been doing yeomanlike work toward that end since....well, let's see...um, 1994.

When you help elect socialists to both the White House and give them a majority in Congress, given that every years since 1994, the socialists have intro'd legislation to roll back welfare reform..um, I'm just curious: what do YOU think will happen?

Able-bodied young men (or wymyn): No, they should not. That's what I said. I did not say they CURRENTLY were. They WILL be once you help put socialists in charge, though (I was referencing pre-1994 conditions where they most assuredly did get welfare...for life, if they wanted, and many did).

Policing: I believe we SHOULD, though. And we should drug-test those on welfare. If you live in subsidized housing, it is not YOUR house, and so you should give up certain rights...there should be Projects Police who can knock on your door at 2 am and demand to see who is sleeping there. If someone is sleeping there who does not have permission, you should be put out on the street.

The "debt": Social programs outlays combined, dwarf military outlays. Have since The Great Society. I don't see that changing anytime soon, do you?

Illegals: it's both a security and a legal problem. It's less a security (national) problem than a legal one. There is not reason to permit these people to stay here. BOTH sides (it was called Bush-KENNEDY, you may recall) are treasonous in this regard and those at the top, as they have colluded with an invading enemy, should be treated as what they are: traitors. This, in my opinion, includes Bush. But it also includes MOST Dems.

Tokie

Originally Posted by wvpeach

I agree the illegal problem is nothing short of treason on the part of our government .


However let me point out to you Tokie , your idea of drug testing everybody could easily be fixed if we just legalized drugs . It would save a lot of tax payer money to end all those trials and keeping people in jail for weed. And if they insist on taking something like crack , Take their kids from them and hey manufacture it pure and let them kill themselves on it if they want. They have the right . And the world will not suffer for the loss of them.

Let me point out that your idea of policing the government housing would cause a big expansion to our government and add literally thousands of government employees to do that at tax payer expense. Everything costs Tokie and there is a lot of government housing. And we need it as people who are making $10 a hour at Walmart cannot afford the rent in say Chicago. So we make deals with people who build apartments to let them live cheaper and it works for everybody , including the tax payer. .


I'd personally rather spend that money on rounding up the illegals and sending them home and closing our borders.

Originally Posted by Tokenconservative

I think you may be misreading this guy, SatV.

Here is what he said: It is the government support for employer healthcare via all sorts of tax subsidies and special legal protections for the corporations and the insurance companies that has done a great deal to make individual policies all but unaffordable to all but the top 10% income earners.

As someone without employer provided healthcare, even with me paying the cost, and as someone without government healthcare, I would love to see the government remove all the subsidies for employer healthcare and pretty much force corporations to drop their group plans. In fact, I think the government should prohibit group healthcare policies force everyone to go to individual plans.

That is the fastest way to single payer healthcare as advocated by Dennis Kucinich.

This approach is designed to FORCE the government to enact a single-payer (socialized) medical system. The "single-payer" being well..you and me as working people, through ever more onerous taxation.

I thought that as a libertarian, you opposed such taxation?

Tokie