Where can you find vocational training, much less free vocational training?

In America, there are all sorts of things.

For example, Medicaire and Medicaid.

Also, you cannot, in America, be turned away from an emergency room...which is why so many illegals use them as doctor's offices.

The real question is, how will "the poor" be better off with socialized medicine...oh, that's right....it will make us all "equal." We will ALL be unable to readily get healthcare, even "the poor" when they work their way out of "the poor" and become middle-class or more.

Well, once they are rich enough, it won't be an issue, of course.

Tokie

Must be 2 dozen such schools where I live from diesel mechanic, to EMT and nursing, from IT to aircraft mechanics.

Not free, I would imagine. There are grants and scholarships available for such things.

What country do you think you live in mulp...the workers paradise of Cuber?

Hmm...can you show us some stats regarding 5-6 year old American kids with blacklung?

Tokie

I would and so would a lot of others , but that does not matter . If you add up all charitable contributions given yearly and even triple them assuming people will have more to give with less taxes , you can't even begin to help all those in need.

Add to that that a study of history will show that when social programs were left to charities very little was done and people had a nasty little habit of deciding who was worthy of that help and who was not.

For instance a pregnant prostitute and her off spring were not considered worthy. So while some hospital for the poor might help her with a difficult delivery and keep her alive , the child was considered a bastard and farmed out to be almost slave labor for the elite . Always reminded of its bastard status .

Did you realize satv that they used to cut the buttons off all clothes they gave to charity ? Were they frugal, wanted to keep their buttons ? No , they did it so that whomever received the clothes would have to sew mismatched buttons back on them and could be distinguished as coming from the lower class.

History shows me that charity cannot be relied on to take care of those really in need.

But I am willing to vote for Ron Paul , because he is a common sense kinda guy and all the social programs do need reform . I know it will create some pain while we trash them all and start again with something more sensible , charity can stand in that gap while we reform . But I have faith that we are a moral enough country to not mind a little tax money going to the right causes.

A realistic and worthy post mulp.

Tokie

You do realize that allowing emergency rooms to be care centers is costing the tax payer a great deal of wasted money every year? There are much better ways to handle the problem and cheaper for the tax payer , but we don't do it because it might cut down on insurance company profits by a billion or two. Thus we the tax payers end up subsidizing insurance and corporate profits while people die in this stupid system we have set up.

And you do realize that emergency rooms only have to treat immediate medical emergencies , they are only mandated by law to do what is medically needed to keep you alive that day. Meaning if you come in with a heart attack and they can stabilize you that day or over a few days they will , but they will not operate to say unblock your arteries or give you a by pass.

If you come in with a huge pain in your stomach and they do some tests and find a tumor , they will tell you , you have a tumor . It won't kill you today and there is nothing else we can do . You need to have more tests . Goodbye.

People die because of this Tokie and its immoral . Makes me ill every time I hear people say the US is a Christian nation. Christian nations don't let people die for lack of health care that could be provided if we revamped our system and cut out the insurance companies. The only saving grace to this is I think a lot of people like you really do not know what they are talking about , so at least its been done in ignorance and when they claim Christianity , most aren't doing it while knowingly letting people die in this messed up health care system in the US . They are just ignorant of the facts . But ignorance will not be a excuse when they are standing before the Lord . Before people make a stance they should educate themselves and know their facts , especially when it comes to matters of life and death.

And now Tokie , you have been told , so you are not ignorant anymore and can start some research to see if you really want to come down on the side of every man for himself ethics.

And I am not talking about free health care for all . I am talking about every working adult in the US being covered and premiums reduced because of the sheer numbers. Then we will save enough money to cover the truly needy and keep the uninsured from going to emergencies rooms where they may or not be able to be helped . If they have no insurance and have a chronic problem , they will die . Any way you cut it its immoral .

ONE LINK ABOUT HEALTH CARE SAYS IT ALL

The document speaks of "gaining control of the public" by keeping them "undisciplined, ignorant, confused, disorganized and distracted."

" Keep the public diverted away from "the real social issues and captivated by matters of no importance." "Sabotage their mental activities" by a "constant barrage of sex, violence and wars in the media" i.e. "mental and emotional rape."


Doctors Kill More People than Guns & Traffic Accidents combined

ONCE ALL THE SECRETS ARE TOLD YOU FAGGOT PUSHING DOCTOR PUSHING LIBERAL FEMINIST CUNTS ARE HISTORY :-)

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Will a picture of some coal mine kids do Tokie?



I don't imagine many statistics were kept on black lung back them , because they did not even know what black lung was .

But it is good common sense that kids with developing lungs and bodies , died in higher numbers than did the adults who it took 30 years to kill and is still killing.

And it is not just coal mining . Want to see some pictures of children missing arms and hands from working in the factories Tokie?

And why are you asking that silly question anyway? Are you advocating we should allow small children to return to the days of labor abuse ? Are you a advocate of returning children to near slave conditions?

Well, what if we put all welfare and healthcare cases under judicial review?

And we could then put them on welfare, and then slowly ween them off and they'd be have to get jobs.