Sure...what, under Clinton? The Clinton tax cuts were actually tax cuts forced on him by the...Republican Congress. It's the same reason he did not sign Kyoto, which he desperately wanted to to please his UN masters: he knew the R-controlled Congress would override him, making him look weaker and more ineffectual than he was.

You can claim Clinton was responsible for the economic boom years of the 90s (and why not? His VP invented the Internets...and romantic love!) but in reality, that was set in motion by....Reagan. Who defeated your heroes, the Soviets, freeing up immense capital and innovation for peacetime growth.

Tokie

Oh Tokie, you have committed a mortal sin. You have given credit where credit is actually due and you have given it to the second most hated president in the last 100 years. Everybody knows that Gorbachev actually defeated the Soviet Union by doing something, what i don't know. Just as everbody knows it was Carter's policies of whining and moaning and selling out our allies that lead to the greatest sustained peace time growth of the economy in our history

Fie for shame.

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I'm not sure, Tokie, but I think Cookie was referring to when Clinton raised taxes in 1993 or 1994.

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Hey, Stormy!

LTNS!

We should keep it that way...

Not sure what Kooky is yammering about...rarely am.

Tokie

Bad Tokie!!

No cookie!!!

Ummm, nathan, be a little careful here. Reagan deserves some of the credit....no doubt. However, the Cold War was a 45 year battle with many important victories and policies throughout....like the Marshall Plan, the Truman Plan, Korea, Nixon and China, the Arabian Peninsula, and many others. Giving all of the credit to just one individual is a) causing many brave individuals to role in their graves, b) understanding history only the way that you want to.

BTW, I haven't read SecDef Gates's book, yet....but, apparently, he gives Carter a great deal of credit for defeating the Soviets because of his human rights approach. Haven't read it, yet, so I don't know the details...but, plan to.

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Your repeating the same idiotic arguments. You still repeat the diatribe about gold and silver bars. Despite the fact that fucking SIlver and Gold Notes are the same as fiat dollars.

I pointed out the falsities in these things in bold a number of times. Gold and Silver notes work like cash...

Your failure to even comprehend that is moronic and shows either a person who likes to keep arguing the same thing over and over because they are wrong. Or just does not get it, and refuses to get it.

Lastly, you have failed to show me that Gold and Silver backed Currency is antithetical to a modern economy. Silver Notes where used up till the 70s, I guess our backwards economy of horse buggies and blacksmiths had to lug around blocks of silver coins and bars to pay for beers?

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Storman, I understand that, just like Eisenhower did not win WW2 all by himself. However, it was the policies of Reagan at the time that forced the Russians to bankrupt themselves with defense spending.

Carter's human rights??? You are joking right? Do you think the Russians gave a rats ass about human rights?

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There is some debate with regards to your last statement. My guess is that it had something to do with it. However, others have argued that other elements like the changing oil industry did more to bring down the Soviet economy than anything we did.
Marginal Revolution: Why did the Soviet Union fall?
Actually no, I'm not joking...at least, that is what my friend tells me who read his book. I don't think the Russian leaders gave a rat's ass about human rights....but, I think the Russian people did. And there are different ways to focus and magnify discontent from the outside...without having to fire a shot because, in the end, it was the people inside that brought the wall down.

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I am confused: Please tell me how it works?

COOKIE DENIES GOD :-O

Live Search: whosoever shall a deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven

TUFF COOKIE ...cookie :-(

THAT'S HOW IT WORKS

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