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Old 09-13-2007, 11:18 PM
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actually sparky you can Clealry credit the Bush boom to his tax cuts. The employment numbers dont lie. And neither do the GDP numbers.. Oh and ofcourse the tax reciept numbers (record setting by the way)
Ah, the effect of the tax cuts, if any, was to cut employment; the fraction of the population working didn't start going up until a year after the second tax cut.

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The low point in the 2003-4 valley is around the time of the fourth or fifth tax cut. Note where the line crosses 2002, which is almost a year after people got a check in the mail of $300 for the first tax cut before 911, and the fraction employed sank lower, as a second and third tax cut were passed, and it sank lower still until another set of tax cuts were passed.

I know you believe the way you shape reality is to repeat the reality you want over and over and over and over until it comes true. Is there a conservative madrases where these claims about reality are taught and repeated? Do you nod your head repeating these statements?
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actually sparky you can Clealry credit the Bush boom to his tax cuts. The employment numbers dont lie. And neither do the GDP numbers.. Oh and ofcourse the tax reciept numbers (record setting by the way)
That's true Gix...thousands more people are working at Walmart and 7-11 stores for 8 bucks an hour. Whoopee.

And next post, try using the spell check button to supplement your lack of education.
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Old 09-17-2007, 06:29 PM
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And Jimmy Carters Presidency didn't come come close to sounding the death keel for America? Remember him? ONLY President EVER to manage to get America double digit inflation, unemployment, and intrest rates. Even for a Dem THAT was tough to accomplish.
>>>Shit happens after price controls. Remember Nixon?:
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Old 09-17-2007, 06:35 PM
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"The economy runs in cycles of boom and bust."

>>>There's no law saying the economy has to run in cycles. The Republicans spend and hand out tax breaks until interest rates rise and the economy collapses; the Dems increase taxes and pay the bills until interest rates come back down. Then it's the Republicans turn to fuck things up again. It's a zero-sum political game played for stupid people.

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Old 09-17-2007, 08:54 PM
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Who worked at Wal-Mart in the 90's?
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Old 09-18-2007, 04:05 AM
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Who worked at Wal-Mart in the 90's?
Wal-Mart had half or less the number of stores at the beginning of the 90s and they were generally smaller. A major part of its employee base were older people, many retired or nearing retirement. Also the people who were new immigrants and such. At the beginning of the 90s, most of the Wal-Marts were in small rural communities, so a Wal-Mart job was pretty good compared to the kinds of job available in such communities, but the cost of living in such areas is far less than in the metro areas where Wal-Mart came to dominate by the late 90s.

In a way, Wal-Mart is faced with the problem that many large corporations face. You have one employee in maybe Wichita Ks doing job X and another in LA also doing the identical job X. Maybe the job is a FAA certified airplane mechanic working on corporate jets. What do you pay for job X? And yes, the demand for such people to fill job X is just as high in Wichita as in LA.

Do you pay a Wal-Mart stocker the $12 an hour that might make it possible to sort of survive in NYC if you double bunk in a closet or the $7 an hour in rural Kansas that will afford you a small ranch with a roommate.
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Old 09-18-2007, 09:36 AM
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And Jimmy Carters Presidency didn't come come close to sounding the death keel for America? Remember him? ONLY President EVER to manage to get America double digit inflation, unemployment, and intrest rates. Even for a Dem THAT was tough to accomplish.

Reagan should be credited for running up a mass of debt not seen untill Bush Jr took over. Although, hey. If one man can bring down communism
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