Thread: More pork and earmarks for The Idiot to deny!

Originally Posted by amphere

For some reason that doesn't surprise me!
Let me guess, you live in your parents basement too huh?

Let me guess, you can't research something on the internet, because your peter is as small as your letters.

Originally Posted by Gary

Why haven't you idiots posted these things and examined them?



Source: Turtle Underpasses, $300 Road Signs and Rusty’s Backwater Saloon Minnesota Free Market Institute

Let's see how you can actually apply your minds and research something. Notice, we are listed as responses to this article.

2. $1 billion for FutureGen in Mattoon, Illinois is the “biggest earmark of all time” for a power plant that may never work.

Why wouldn't this project work? We have been making hydrogen from coal for over a hundred years. We have also used carbon capture and sequestration on various projects, including using it to extract crude oil.

Ref: FutureGen Industrial Alliance, Inc

Here is a link saying FutureGen announced the Mattoon Il site as one of the four finalists in July 2006.

In July 2006, the FutureGen Alliance announced the four finalists for the facility: Mattoon and Tuscola in Illinois; and Jewett and Odessa in Texas.

Ref: FutureGen for Illinois

December 18, 2007

FutureGen Alliance Selects Mattoon, Illinois as the Final Site for the First-of-a-kind, Near-Zero Emissions Coal-fueled Power Plant


Washington, D.C. - The FutureGen Alliance today announced that Mattoon, Illinois has been chosen as the final site to host the FutureGen power plant.

"The Alliance would like to congratulate Mattoon, Illinois for being chosen as the final site to host the FutureGen facility," said Mike Mudd, Chief Executive Officer of the FutureGen Alliance. "Officials from Mattoon should be commended for their determination and dedication to the FutureGen program."

The site evaluation process has been rigorous, transparent, and held to the highest level of scrutiny. The U.S. DOE's environmental review was thorough and resulted in finding all four candidate sites worthy of being selected. The selection of Mattoon, will be finalized upon the Department of Energy's (DOE) issuance of the National Environmental Policy Act Record of Decision and other DOE contractual formalities. Completing this massive effort in such a short time is a testament to the teamwork by the DOE, its contractors, the states and the Alliance. The Alliance used over 120 different factors in the general areas of cost, risks to cost and schedule, and benefits in making the final selection.

The Alliance and Illinois will now work together to move FutureGen forward at a continued fast pace to develop this much-needed, first-of-a-kind research and development program. With the issue of climate change at the top of Congress' agenda and on the minds of many policy-makers around the globe, FutureGen and its continued progress toward advancing new technologies such as carbon capture and storage is more important than ever.

Over the course of the program, the Alliance has maintained an aggressive schedule and today's announcement marks another milestone by the FutureGen Alliance in developing this technology solution.

The FutureGen Alliance greatly appreciates the support from Mattoon and the other three candidate sites over the past two years, and looks forward to making the project a reality.

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The FutureGen Alliance is a non-profit organization that represents some of the world's largest coal companies and electric utilities including: American Electric Power Service Corporation, Anglo American Services (UK) Limited, BHP Billiton Energy Coal, Inc., China Huaneng Group, CONSOL Energy Inc., E.ON U.S. LLC, Foundation Coal Corporation, Luminant, PPL Energy Services Group, LLC, Peabody Energy Corporation, Rio Tinto Energy America Services, Southern Company Services, Inc., and Xstrata Coal Pty Limited. The Alliance is partnering with the U.S. Department of Energy to design and build the facility. Learn more about FutureGen and the Alliance at FutureGen Industrial Alliance, Inc.

December 18, 2007

Source: FutureGen - Luminant Joins FutureGen Alliance

Finding the Pork in the Obama Stimulus Bill
Is Obama's stimulus overflowing with special-interest projects?
By Matthew Bandyk
Posted February 19, 2009

When President Obama signed the landmark $787 billion stimulus package, he proudly declared that he did not allow any members of Congress to insert wasteful, last-minute earmarks in their bills to benefit special interests in their states and districts. Dubbed "pork barrel" spending, these earmarks are notorious in Washington, perhaps the most infamous example being the $385 million "Bridge to Nowhere" for Alaska inserted into a 2005 transportation bill by the now-disgraced Sen. Ted Stevens.

But with or without earmarks -- and despite what Obama said -- special-interest spending has found its way into the stimulus in massive doses, budget watchers contend. "We were told this was going to be a massive infrastructure spending program," says Veronique De Rugy, a senior research fellow at George Mason University's Mercatus Center. She argues that the bill is overflowing not with needed infrastructure spending, but with hundreds of billions in pork.

Now the majority of the $787 billion isn't pork. Indeed, tax relief alone makes up some 34 percent of the bill. Where you might find the pork is in the so-called discretionary spending portion of the bill, which amount to $308 billion, according to the Congressional Budget Office. Of that money, $48 billion goes to the Department of Transportation for various rail and road projects to repair and expand infrastructure. That leaves about $260 billion of discretionary spending that goes to various federal agencies, as well as to state and local governments. How much of that amount helps special interests instead of the economy as a whole? That depends, of course, on what you consider a special interest. But decide for yourself. Here is a list of some of the most controversial individual pieces of discretionary spending that might have the pleasant taste of pork.

Finding the Pork in the Obama Stimulus Bill - US News and World Report


Obama Economic Stimulus Offers Too Much Waste, Not Enough Job Creation

By Mortimer Zuckerman
Posted February 16, 2009


Obama Economic Stimulus Offers Too Much Waste, Not Enough Job Creation - US News and World Report

Originally Posted by Fraulein Hilda

Americans know stimulus is not working.

source? a nazi bitches ass.

One notes that comtards article is short on...

well, pork; Not a single item that meets the simple three fold test for pork.

But let us be specific...

From Comtards article..

"1) Green golf carts. Ever rode a "neighborhood electric vehicle?" Well, you might want to now. The stimulus includes a tax credit toward the purchase of NEVs, which closely resemble golf carts in appearance. They are considered green vehicles because they use an electric battery instead of gasoline. You fill it up with juice by plugging it into a home electrical outlet. Don't expect to be able to take your NEV far outside of your neighborhood, though. Federal regulations limit their top speed to between 20 and 25 miles per hour. Freeway cruising is out.

Not pork, nationwide (does not meet test one, restricted to one district. Not shown to be meant to buy votes. Green vehicles are in the national interests, moreover. Batting zero.

Those aren't the only green vehicles getting stimulus subsidies. There is also $300 million to buy "green" cars for federal employees.

2) Closing the ice-breaking gap. The U.S. Coast Guard is getting a shot in the arm from the stimulus, thanks to $98 million for a "polar icebreaker." That's not a new gum flavor, but a ship. The service currently has three ice-breaking ships able to sail through the frozen Arctic Ocean, but it wants a new and improved one to upgrade the aging fleet. Thad Allen, commandant of the Coast Guard, testified before a House panel last summer that icebreakers are needed for national security reasons. "Russia, Germany, China, Sweden and Canada are all investing and maintaining and expanding their national ice-breaking capacity," he said.

So now the coast Guard is pork? For morons not paying attention, global warming is opening resources in the arctic-and Canada and Russia are both claiming territory there. What a stupid complaint.

But more, spending not meant to buy votes in one district. Serves national interests-not pork


3) Homeland security stimulus. That pricey icebreaker is just one of several examples of homeland and national security spending contained in the stimulus not directly connected to restoration of the economy. There is also $200 million to "design and furnish" the Department of Homeland Security headquarters. De Rugy says that security spending should be considered by Congress in bills related to security, not the economy. "There was no debating these things on the merits," she says.

Not limmited to one district. Not meant to buy votes. In nationl interest. ergo, not pork a Tend...

4) Clean Coal. While Obama has stressed the number of "green jobs" his stimulus will create, $3.4 billion of the $787 billion will be spent on old-school, non-green energy technology. That's how much goes to the Fossil Energy Research and Development program, a Department of Energy project that, among other things, seeks to reduce the amount of carbon emitted by the use of fossil fuels. Daniel Weiss, a senior fellow and director of climate strategy at the Center for American Progress, says that most of this money will go toward the development of clean-coal technology. "The goal is to develop a technology that can capture carbon dioxide from coal in a coal-fired power plant," he says. And where's the stimulus in clean coal? Weiss says that we won't see the results of this investment anytime soon, and $3.4 billion is probably only a fraction of what is needed for real clean-coal technology to ever be achieved. But, he adds, in the short term, "this would create research jobs and jobs at power plants." That isn't stopping critics from calling this fossil energy provision pork.

Well, lets see. Not limitted to one district, not meant to buy votes, in the national interest.

In other owrds, not pork. Do you morons have any idea what pork is?

So, what is clear is that you morons still have not a single baco bit of pork

Originally Posted by FIAWOL

One notes that comtards article is short on...

well, pork; Not a single item that meets the simple three fold test for pork.

The article doesn't say anything. These TARDs only know how to post and spam. They probably only read the headlines.

Originally Posted by FIAWOL

What a pack of lies.

Please, please link to where I said that there would be no work done to protect turtles..

Who said you did you fucking liar?

Originally Posted by Gary

Why haven't you idiots posted these things and examined them?



Source: Turtle Underpasses, $300 Road Signs and Rusty’s Backwater Saloon Minnesota Free Market Institute

Let's see how you can actually apply your minds and research something. Notice, we are listed as responses to this article.

Maybe you should refute them.

Oh, and what the fuck does it matter that we are listed as responses to this article you dipshit?

Originally Posted by Gary

Florida is a Republican state. It's Governor and Lt Governor are Republicans. It's State Senate has 26 Republicans, 14 Democrats and it's State House has 76 Republicans, 44 Democrats. Why did they request funding for this particular project?

Ref: Political party strength in Florida - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



Source: Hit & Run > Turtle Crossing Stimulus Project Not Shovel Ready. As a Result, Many Turtles Are. - Reason Magazine

A report on a Coburn site called the road the turtle killing capital of America.

I've heard reports this project was rejected.

It would come from Florida's congressmen, not their state Senate. Florida's state Senate doesn't vote on the "stimulus" package.

Maybe they got it because Florida went with Obama. Or maybe because it is being done in a Dem's constituency. Either way, it is government waste and you don't seem to have ANY problem with it. That is where we are different, I have a problem with ALL government waste, whereas you say it is OK as long as it is the Dems spending the money.

Who gives a fuck about turtles crossing the road and why would we even consider spending money on it?

I love how tucuc/dom the sock bitch lies, then when called on it denies he did.

Poor little bitch

Keep sucking like the bitch you are.

Preserving edangered species and stimulating the economy is "waste" in tucus/doms bbook

a little book with pictures and no print, that the little bitch is holding upside down.

Kep sucking, bitch