Thread: The Media Contributes To The Deaths Of Our Troops?

Punk kids have called me a babykiller in the past. I swated one. But after a cool down. I realised that stupid kids are just showing off and dont know what they are doing. When afhgnistan happened some kids shouted baby killer at the VFW marching in a parade. Most were ww2. They were jsut clueless punks. They police gave the tickets for it.

Originally Posted by noneof yourbusiness

Ohhhh. Well then thats why. The web allows you to say anyting without any real repercusiions. They are more then likely unable to understand critcism for this war should be directed at the people that concieved of it. Some think that the entire military should have a boycot on moral gorunds. But they fail to realise that Soldiers have a job and familys to take care of and that kind of mutiny will be something that will ruin them for life. Its more compicatd then the way I just explained it..but the point is they are just radical, angry and unthinking.

Wow NOYB. Thank you.

Originally Posted by StormanNorman

I don't know....I would have to look at and analyze the civilian casualty data...look at the trends before and after, etc.....although the problem with that is its reliability.

But, as far as US Servicemen and women fatalities go (that was the theme of this thread), NO...you can't conclude that 10/04 or 10/06 were any higher for reasons other than randomness in the data. Like I said, Smitty, 10/06 was barely outside one SD from the average....not an outlier....and there were six other months with higher totals.

Date......Iraqi Civilian Casualtys
Jan 2006=......783
Feb 2006=......865
Mar 2006=......1121
Apr 2006=......1038
May 2006=......1120
Jun 2006=......888
July 2006=......1287
Aug 2006=......2966 Leading up to the November Elections
Sept 2006=......3543 Leading up to the November Elections
Oct 2006=......1541 Leading up to the November Elections
Nov 2006=......1865
Dec 2006=......1752
Jan 2007=......1803 Leading up to the Iraq War Resolution Vote
Feb 2007=......3014 Congress fights over Iraq War Resolution, Dems want pullout! >> Online NewsHour: Debate | Senate Delays Iraq Resolution | February 6, 2007 | PBS >> Senate gridlocks on Iraq war resolution - Politics - MSNBC.com
Mar 2007=......2984 Congress fights over Joint resolution to widthdraw from Iraq.
April 2007=......1826
May 2007=......1987
Jun 2007=......1345
July 2007=......1748
Aug 2007=......2074 Leading up to the General Petraeus Report
Sept 2007......849 After the Petraeus Report.
Oct 2007......406 Civilian Casualtys Go Down


Average civilian casualtys before August (Jan-Aug) 2006= 1014
Average civilian casualtys after August 2006 (Sept through Nov)= 2683

Liberated Text's Iraq War - 2007: Should We Stay or Should We Go?

Originally Posted by Cookie Parker

The Military-Mass Media Complex

Sorry, but those invested in this war control the media....you want fair and unbiased coverage, you must compare and look at overseas papers...

Thats what I like about you Cookie! Your so easy to prove wrong!





Liberal Media Bias
List of journalists taking sides - Politics - MSNBC.com

Journalists give to Democrats 9-1
Hot Air » Blog Archive » Shocka! Journalists give to Democrats 9-1

Like that 1990s survey revealing that about 90 percent of the Washington press corps supported Clinton, a president who didn’t crack 50% in either 1992 or 1996, didn’t tell us this years ago. Still, it’s one of those things the confirms what we already know: Journalists tend to be a bunch of libs who are are out to “change the world” rather than just report on it:
The following 144 journalists made campaign contributions from 2004 through the first quarter of 2007, according to Federal Election Commission records studied by MSNBC.com.
Key: (D) contributed to Democrats or liberal causes, (R) to Republicans and conservative causes.
Click on “details” next to each name to see the amounts and what the journalists have to say.
Television:
(D) ABC News, Mary Fulginiti, “Primetime” correspondent.
(D) ABC affiliate in Boston, WCVB, Sangita Chandra, producer.
(D) ABC affiliate in Wichita, KAKE, Susan Peters, anchor.
(D) CBS News, Serena Altschul, correspondent for “CBS Sunday Morning.”
Etc. The list goes on for a while and you see mostly (D) in front of the names. Not surprising, even though it’s getting giant headline treatment elsewhere. In other shocking news, the sun shines.
We all know that j-schools attract post-Watergate types who want to get the next scoop that brings down the next president, as long as that president has (R) in front of his name. We all know that most journalists will carry water for the NOW gang while ignoring the Concerned Women of America, whose ideology is conservative and whose membership dwarfs the far left NOW. We all know that most journalists cover environmental issues like they’re a huge threat, while downplaying the very real and ongoing threat from Islamic radicalism. We all know this. It’s not much of a surprise to see it confirmed via political donations.
What might be a bit more surprising is that MSNBC’s David Shuster showed up for a forum at the far left Take Back America confab yesterday. Click here, go to Day 3 and look at the 11 am session, the one called “The Mainstream Media: Fair and Balanced.” You have far left blogger Duncan “Atrios” black, a Clinton guy, two Air America guys, a WaPo guy, a Newsweek guy, a freelancer who specializes in Latino issues, and David Shuster of MSNBC. They used Fox’s branding motto to title the session, but didn’t include anyone from Fox, just a guy from one of its (distant, as the ratings go) rivals, and who once worked for Fox. I doubt Shuster defended Fox, since he works for MSNBC now and shows up on Hardball all the time. I’m guessing that that forum as co So what was alleged news reporter David Shuster doing at a far left pep rally that seems designed to be nothing but a Fox bash? Hmmm?

Originally Posted by Cookie Parker

corporate america, more specifically the military complex, the biggest corporate welfare bitch, owns the media

1) Name me the military complex that shouldent be in Iraq!

2) Next I want you too look up all the fortune 500 CEO's. You will find that they are overwhelmingly Democrats!

Originally Posted by Cookie Parker

What dead bodies in the US media? ..they don't even show the caskets of the soldiers at home...

where do your guys stick your heads in order to avoid reality ?

America shouldent be a bunch of rubbernecks tryng to get a glimse of American casualtys! We morn our dead we dont openly display them as advertisements for political purposes! Its disrespectful and any person you ask in the militaty will agree with that! We dont want our dead advertised!

Originally Posted by noneof yourbusiness

Theres nothing said on the news that isnt already known by everybody over there.

When polititions advertise defeat and widthdraw it does nothing but to inspire the enemy! Who want to defeat us and make us widthdraw!

Originally Posted by noneof yourbusiness

They dont fight a Tank from the 1st Infantry Division any different then one from the 3rd Armored.... This is not mechanized warfare. The enemy is within the population your movements are always observed.

Its nice to have a armored vehicle that isnt weak to IED'd and PRG,s! Furthermore its nice to have a cannon/rocket on an armored vehicle that keeps our rocket men from being sitting ducks! To fire a rocket you need to be out in the open because of the backblast area. With a tank you dont need to worry about that because you have armor!

Originally Posted by oceanbreeze

Someone on this forum called my husband a baby killer because he served in Iraq from 2005-2006. Tell me that isn't media talking.

No thoes are far leftist liberals! The media covers these people and advertise them as mainstream. Our enemys see this and they are inspired and encouraged by the support for widthdraw in the US.

Originally Posted by Smitty0311

Date......Iraqi Civilian Casualtys
Jan 2006=......783
Feb 2006=......865
Mar 2006=......1121
Apr 2006=......1038
May 2006=......1120
Jun 2006=......888
July 2006=......1287
Aug 2006=......2966 Leading up to the November Elections
Sept 2006=......3543 Leading up to the November Elections
Oct 2006=......1541 Leading up to the November Elections
Nov 2006=......1865
Dec 2006=......1752
Jan 2007=......1803 Leading up to the Iraq War Resolution Vote
Feb 2007=......3014 Congress fights over Iraq War Resolution, Dems want pullout! >> Online NewsHour: Debate | Senate Delays Iraq Resolution | February 6, 2007 | PBS >> Senate gridlocks on Iraq war resolution - Politics - MSNBC.com
Mar 2007=......2984 Congress fights over Joint resolution to widthdraw from Iraq.
April 2007=......1826
May 2007=......1987
Jun 2007=......1345
July 2007=......1748
Aug 2007=......2074 Leading up to the General Petraeus Report
Sept 2007......849 After the Petraeus Report.
Oct 2007......406 Civilian Casualtys Go Down


Average civilian casualtys before August (Jan-Aug) 2006= 1014
Average civilian casualtys after August 2006 (Sept through Nov)= 2683

Liberated Text's Iraq War - 2007: Should We Stay or Should We Go?

Interesting, Smitty....do you have the 2004 data? And do you have a link to the data?

Originally Posted by noneof yourbusiness

They are more then likely unable to understand critcism for this war should be directed at the people that concieved of it.

The war critisim bunch is the crowd that keeps our enemys motovated!

Originally Posted by noneof yourbusiness

Some think that the entire military should have a boycot on moral gorunds. But they fail to realise that Soldiers have a job and familys to take care of and that kind of mutiny will be something that will ruin them for life. Its more compicatd then the way I just explained it..but the point is they are just radical, angry and unthinking.

No one in the military will boycott the war even if they had the chance to! We join the military to fight in this war! The war has gone on for over 4 years and an enlistment is 4 years. This means that everyone in the military has come to terms with fighting this war! There are many goverment jobs out in the world if they want to get out and keep their federal pension! They would actually get a larger pension as a civilian! So no matter what there familys can still be covered! Especially when there getting a free education with the GI Bill! Your above statement shows exactly how much you do not understand the military!

Originally Posted by StormanNorman

Interesting, Smitty....do you have the 2004 data? And do you have a link to the data?

This Is the attacks against coalition/iraqi forces from May 2003 - Oct 2006 "7 days before the midterm elections! Notice the sharp rise in violence before the 2006 november midterms! The enemys strategy is to make Iraq as unpopular as possible through violence so that the party campaighning for pullout wins! This is the only way that the enemy will win this war!


Also see the Sharp Increase Of violence during the 04 elections Followed by a sharp decline the month after!