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12-05-2006, 04:20 PM
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Do you think people should be punished for crying rape?
I'm not completely sure on this one. If a women has gone out of her way to ruin a mans life by making false accusations of rape, it seems to me that she should have to pay for doing such evil deeds. On the other hand, it may put women who have actually been raped reporting the crimes, as if the defendent is found innocent, she would have to punished for something she knows she didn't do.
It's a tough one, It's a tough one.
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12-05-2006, 04:50 PM
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Absolutly a woman (or a man) should be punished for falsly reporting a crime.
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12-05-2006, 06:52 PM
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Reporting a crime when there has been none is a chargeable offense in most states. The problem is in proving it. You may be able to prove that male A did not rape female A, but that does not mean that she was not raped by male B. She may well have just mistaken him for male A. And then too there are the cases where she believed with all her heart that she was raped, but there just wasn't enough evidence to prove it. He gets off, but that doesn't mean she's committed a crime.
About the only time I can see a case like this actually getting prosecuted is if she admits she made it all up or if there is undisputable evidence that she consented, like a video of the act. Then I'd have no problem with charging her.
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12-05-2006, 11:38 PM
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Okay, sometimes it is just obvious that a crime has been commited. But in some situations it is really hard to tell. Kix is right, it is a criminal offence to lie about a crime.
What you need to prove a case of rape, is that this crime actually happened. If you feel you have been raped, go to the hospital, have a rape kit done. If the crime was violent, photograph all bruises and markings. Do not take a bath until after you visit the hospital, this will wipe out your evidence. Report it, but don't drop the charges a couple of days later.
I am sorry if this is leaning towards only women being raped, I know it happens to men, but I have never worked a case like that.
If the woman is lying and has been to the police and made charges. Then she deserves to be charged herself. The crap they have put the other person through, plus wasting my time, you will pay.
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12-06-2006, 07:02 AM
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If DNA and evidence provides that the accused is innocent the accuser should be punished fo lying.
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12-06-2006, 09:26 AM
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The only time a woman (or man) should be indicted for claiming rape is when there is undeniable proof that it was done malaciously (pardon my spelling, its not my strong suit). For the most part this would be extremely difficult to prove. What if a woman claims Spitty raped her but actually it was his evil twin God Killer? What if it were a situation that the man thought it was consenual but she feels it was rape but he is found not guilty afterwards. Rape is not not robbery or murder. I would have to say that women have been humilitated enough over the ages to not now reverse the clock and put them in jail if they can't prove it was actually a rape or they believed deeply that it was rape.
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12-06-2006, 11:59 AM
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I agree, but some women have abused the system when in after thought they have decided the have made a mistake by having sex with someone. It's a lose-lose situation. 
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12-06-2006, 12:34 PM
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Isn't there a commandment about bearing false witness?
Besides, as we have seen in the Duke Lacrosse case so far, even without a conviction the lives of the accused are screwed. Some gangsta will probably off them with his gat one day even if they are innocent.
Disbar Nifong!
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12-06-2006, 12:47 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sour_claw
Isn't there a commandment about bearing false witness?
Besides, as we have seen in the Duke Lacrosse case so far, even without a conviction the lives of the accused are screwed. Some gangsta will probably off them with his gat one day even if they are innocent.
Disbar Nifong!
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Aw c'mon. If those Dukies didn't rape that girl, it would be the first LaCrosse party in the history of the NCAA where someone didn't get raped.
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12-06-2006, 01:13 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by George O Well
Aw c'mon. If those Dukies didn't rape that girl, it would be the first LaCrosse party in the history of the NCAA where someone didn't get raped.
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There is little evidence against any of them, yet a week after the charges two of those guys pictures were on the cover of NEWSWEEK. That jackass prosecutor Nifong just wants to get a national name for himself. He initially said the guys were stonewalling - and it was false. Every one of them cooperated. They all gave DNA samples (47 of them) when asked without lawyering up. Now it looks like they didn't do it and they will forever be known as rapists - all of them.
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