Will Hillary or Obama have right to imprison you?

Dom1 · #11 (**permalink**) 04-02-2008, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by wvpeach

Certainly any president now has the right to imprison anybody with out charges . Bush saw to that.

All they have to do is say you are suspected of terrorism.

And who defines terrorism? the president of course.

You could be guilty of terrorism economically because you advocate more regulation on business . which Bush deems as a terrorist act against the economy.

Presidents that follow Bush will have the same powers.

You are an idiot and anyone who reads too many of your posts becomes dumber by doing so.

Dom1 · #12 (**permalink**) 04-02-2008, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Skinny Fatts

Probably they will, but only if we don't swear allegiance to the party...like in Ohio.

Too funny.

Especially because only about four people got the joke.

Yellowjacket · #13 (**permalink**) 04-02-2008, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by mulp

I don't recall what McCain cited, but how about
Hamdi v. Rumsfeld

From Findlaw:
FindLaw for Legal Professionals - Case Law, Federal and State Resources, Forms, and Code

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YASER ESAM HAMDI and ESAM FOUAD HAMDI, as
next friend of YASER ESAM HAMDI, PETITION-
ERS v. DONALD H. RUMSFELD, SECRETARY
OF DEFENSE, et al.

on writ of certiorari to the united states court of appeals for the fourth circuit

[June 28, 2004]

Justice O'Connor announced the judgment of the Court and delivered an opinion, in which The Chief Justice, Justice Kennedy, and Justice Breyer join.

At this difficult time in our Nation's history, we are called upon to consider the legality of the Government's detention of a United States citizen on United States soil as an "enemy combatant" and to address the process that is constitutionally owed to one who seeks to challenge his classification as such. The United States Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit held that petitioner's detention was legally authorized and that he was entitled to no further opportunity to challenge his enemy-combatant label. We now vacate and remand. We hold that although Congress authorized the detention of combatants in the narrow circumstances alleged here, due process demands that a citizen held in the United States as an enemy combatant be given a meaningful opportunity to contest the factual basis for that detention before a neutral decisionmaker.

pjwky · #14 (**permalink**) 04-02-2008, 03:52 PM

Well All, for all of my life, up until several years go, I would have quickly responded that "no individual branch of our government had the sole authority to sweep us up and imprison us." After all we had things like "warrants" & "habeous corpus" & "due process" firmly imbeded into the law-of-the-land. Then along came GWB & administration, and their ideas of protecting "we the people" by the Patriot Act, and by declairing certain individuals as "foreign combatants" and thus not subject to Constitutional protections.

Of course, the sleeping-lazzy-terrified Congress did not do their assigned task in safe-guarding "we the people" and so GWB et al got away with this. Stupid me, I was not really aware of how far this autocratic action had taken our government: then I read the book about Rendition called "Ghost Plane". I challenge anyone to read this and still feel safe from the whims & rummors that might come to our government's attention.

The documentation within this book is extraordinary: if any information can be considered reliable, I would suggest that "Ghost Plane" documents such information in a very solid manner.

Once lost, I suspect our individual rights will be very dificult to regain: and the entire concept of a "slippery slope" effect on our freedoms should be terrifying to all of us. ...pjwky

A. Crowley · #15 (**permalink**) 04-02-2008, 03:57 PM

"Move to France, Libtard! If ya ain't got anyting to hide What's the Problem? Bill Clinton is a Pedophile! Why do you hate America!"

pjwky · #16 (**permalink**) 04-02-2008, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by A. Crowley

"Move to France, Libtard! If ya ain't got anyting to hide What's the Problem? Bill Clinton is a Pedophile! Why do you hate America!"

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What a helpful comment. ...pjwky

A. Crowley · #17 (**permalink**) 04-02-2008, 04:05 PM

I was just making a contribution on behalf of all the republicant 'patriots" here on AWE.

Won't happen again; since they're so ungrateful.

wow · #18 (**permalink**) 04-02-2008, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by A. Crowley

"Move to France, Libtard! If ya ain't got anyting to hide What's the Problem? Bill Clinton is a Pedophile! Why do you hate America!"

-It's move to "Venezuela" now. There are massive food shortages because Liberals care about the people in Venezuela.
-Clinton is not a pedophile.
-Why do you hate America?
-The rest of it is accurate.

Dom1 · #19 (**permalink**) 04-03-2008, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by pjwky

Well All, for all of my life, up until several years go, I would have quickly responded that "no individual branch of our government had the sole authority to sweep us up and imprison us." After all we had things like "warrants" & "habeous corpus" & "due process" firmly imbeded into the law-of-the-land. Then along came GWB & administration, and their ideas of protecting "we the people" by the Patriot Act, and by declairing certain individuals as "foreign combatants" and thus not subject to Constitutional protections.

Of course, the sleeping-lazzy-terrified Congress did not do their assigned task in safe-guarding "we the people" and so GWB et al got away with this. Stupid me, I was not really aware of how far this autocratic action had taken our government: then I read the book about Rendition called "Ghost Plane". I challenge anyone to read this and still feel safe from the whims & rummors that might come to our government's attention.

The documentation within this book is extraordinary: if any information can be considered reliable, I would suggest that "Ghost Plane" documents such information in a very solid manner.

Once lost, I suspect our individual rights will be very dificult to regain: and the entire concept of a "slippery slope" effect on our freedoms should be terrifying to all of us. ...pjwky

Not only was Congress sleeping, but you have been also. I'd say for about 16 years or so! Were you sleeping when Bill Clinton approved of warrantless searches and other things like you mentioned above? See, I think if you have a problem with what is being done you should have a problem with what is being done no matter who is in charge, but you obviously are not one of those poeple. That tells me that you are more cared about partisan politics than you are about any perceived rights that you may or may not have lost.

Speaking of rendition, maybe you should do a bit of research on it, as you obviously don't know all that much about its history.

George O Well · #20 (**permalink**) 04-03-2008, 10:58 AM

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If ya ain't got anyting to hide What's the Problem?

>>>I've got stuff to hide. I should probably learn to love George Bush and stop saying nasty things about him. I could wake up in some Bulgarian prison.