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03-08-2008, 05:58 PM
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Why the death penalty, you ask?
Here is another reason the death penalty should be used more often. It would have saved the lives of these SIX people, two of them children.
Brother charged in Memphis mass shooting - Yahoo! News
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03-09-2008, 11:46 AM
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So, anyone who kills anyone else should be executed in all cases?
Perhaps the real problem is with the prisons which provide absolutely no rehabilitation, but instead turn teenagers into angry and violent adults.
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03-09-2008, 12:03 PM
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So, anyone who kills anyone else should be executed in all cases?
Perhaps the real problem is with the prisons which provide absolutely no rehabilitation, but instead turn teenagers into angry and violent adults.
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I am sure that is not what he meant but if you read the article, this guy was a convicted killer released from prision.
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03-09-2008, 12:07 PM
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The "Brother" needed to be turned into Compost a long time ago...
Police said the victims were killed Sunday morning. The bodies were discovered Monday.
The adults were shot, while the children were stabbed with a knife and bludgeoned, police said.
Cecil Dotson and Seals each had extensive criminal records that include possession of illegal drugs and firearms. Cecil Dotson is identified in jail records as a known gang member.
Records also show that Jessie Dotson pleaded guilty to second-degree murder in 1994 and spent 14 years in prison. He was released from prison in January.
What piece of shit Liberal Lawyer, or Judge turned loose this animal? Lets check the Parole Records and hold them accountable as "Accessories" to Murder.
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03-09-2008, 12:16 PM
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[quote=Realist1;332037]The "Brother" needed to be turned into Compost a long time ago...
Police said the victims were killed Sunday morning. The bodies were discovered Monday.
The adults were shot, while the children were stabbed with a knife and bludgeoned, police said.
Cecil Dotson and Seals each had extensive criminal records that include possession of illegal drugs and firearms. Cecil Dotson is identified in jail records as a known gang member.
Records also show that Jessie Dotson pleaded guilty to second-degree murder in 1994 and spent 14 years in prison. He was released from prison in January.
What piece of shit Liberal Lawyer, or Judge turned loose this animal? Lets check the Parole Records and hold them accountable as "Accessories" to Murder.[/QUOTE]
Maybe that's what's going to take or if they're loved one is killed. 
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03-09-2008, 12:24 PM
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[quote=oceanbreeze;332044]
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Originally Posted by Realist1
The "Brother" needed to be turned into Compost a long time ago...
Police said the victims were killed Sunday morning. The bodies were discovered Monday.
The adults were shot, while the children were stabbed with a knife and bludgeoned, police said.
Cecil Dotson and Seals each had extensive criminal records that include possession of illegal drugs and firearms. Cecil Dotson is identified in jail records as a known gang member.
Records also show that Jessie Dotson pleaded guilty to second-degree murder in 1994 and spent 14 years in prison. He was released from prison in January.
What piece of shit Liberal Lawyer, or Judge turned loose this animal? Lets check the Parole Records and hold them accountable as "Accessories" to Murder.[/QUOTE]
Maybe that's what's going to take or if they're loved one is killed. 
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Damm Right OB. We really need to know who's in charge of turning loose the trash back on us...And hold them accountable for their actions.
Take care.
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03-09-2008, 12:51 PM
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It's not the prison, it's the prisoner
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Originally Posted by mulp
So, anyone who kills anyone else should be executed in all cases?.
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If it's 1st degree with malice and forethought and proven guilty beyond reasonable doubt with DNA--yep!
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Perhaps the real problem is with the prisons which provide absolutely no rehabilitation, but instead turn teenagers into angry and violent adults.
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You oversimplify that these are simple teenagers like your neighbors (I hope). It is not the prison, it's the prisoner. Change for the better can only happen if the criminal wants it. The problem is not with the Prison, no Prison or rehab can do what the criminal is not willing to do for themselves.
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03-09-2008, 01:18 PM
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"Teak", there are several very good not so liberal reaons why the death penalty is not in the best interest of society:
1) Oaklahoma City Bombing still has unanswered questions, in time perhaps we could have extracted more information from McVeigh. If we could not have obtained more bomb information from him, then perhaps science could have learned more about his twisted thinking & possible hard-wired brain.
2) Each day neuro-science advances and demonstrates increasing genetic, structural hard-wiring, and biochemical distortions in the brain activity of individuals that comit unthinkable acts: we would learn more by study then execution.
3) Holding and studying these type convicts would be more reasonable and have a better cost benefit ration to society then holding lesser non-violent offenders for long periods of time.
4) The knowledge that one would be imprisoned and studied for life is more terrifying then the idea of death & execution, and as such would provide increased deturent.
5) If co-conspirators knew that we would hold & interrogate captured offenders for life, they would be more warry of becoming involved in a violent act.
6) There is no evidence that execution provides a sufficient deturant to many violent offenders: in fact there is evidence that some of them see this as a "claim to fame" and ticket to maryterdom.
The more we can learn from these distorted human beings, then the better chance we have to address & prevent some of these terrible acts. Just a thought...... pjwky
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03-09-2008, 02:02 PM
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Here is another reason the death penalty should be used more often. It would have saved the lives of these SIX people, two of them children.
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Records also show that Jessie Dotson pleaded guilty to second-degree murder in 1994 and spent 14 years in prison. He was released from prison in January.
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2nd degree murder does not qualify for the death penalty anywhere in the U.S. to my knowledge. Normally, "aggravated" circumstances are required for the death penalty. I'm not sure of Tennessee's statute as to penalty, but the judge may have been restricted in what sentence he could issue
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Perhaps the real problem is with the prisons which provide absolutely no rehabilitation, but instead turn teenagers into angry and violent adults.
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I'd be very interested in knowing what rehabilitation, in your opinion, prisons do not offer but should. Further, what experience / knowledge qualifies you to make such a blanket statement? Also, the "teenager" was convicted of 2nd degree murder at age 19, legally an adult.
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What piece of shit Liberal Lawyer, or Judge turned loose this animal? Lets check the Parole Records and hold them accountable as "Accessories" to Murder.
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From Tenn. DR&C records, Dotson's sentence had ended and he was on unsupervised release. Apparently he served his full sentence without being paroled.
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03-09-2008, 02:14 PM
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Life terms would accomplish what you desire, more cheaply. The lawyers would get a smaller slice of the pie too. win win.
Killing never saved any life. By definition that is impossible.
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