Why the death penalty, you ask?

Yellowjacket · #41 (**permalink**) 03-12-2008, 04:54 PM

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That's true, as one dealing within the Law Enforcement System,,,as a Professional, you'd have to adjust your natural instincts... Or lose your position.

Believe me, sometimes that's not easy - but necessary just the same.

[quote][As for Mr Paine,,,he'd have been much better off if he'd of taken "care" of his Enemies, as we should the repeat released Murderers.
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I don't think Mr. Paine was speaking against capital punishment per se, just advising caution that, in our zeal for justice, we don't forget that our rights are precious and must not be lost or forgotten - even those of the accused. Indeed, even the Constitution provides for deprivation of life in the 5th and 14th amendments, after due process is observed.

Realist1 · #42 (**permalink**) 03-12-2008, 09:21 PM

[quote=Yellowjacket;336117]Believe me, sometimes that's not easy - but necessary just the same.

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[As for Mr Paine,,,he'd have been much better off if he'd of taken "care" of his Enemies, as we should the repeat released Murderers.
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I don't think Mr. Paine was speaking against capital punishment per se, just advising caution that, in our zeal for justice, we don't forget that our rights are precious and must not be lost or forgotten - even those of the accused. Indeed, even the Constitution provides for deprivation of life in the 5th and 14th amendments, after due process is observed.

I'd love to see the Rights of the People,,,again take center-stage over the "rights" of the criminals...

In this Case we're discussing, a known murderer was let out,,,killed his own Family members...

The piece of shit shot, beat, and sliced "his own Blood" to death. I didn't let him out.... I'm not at all interested in it's Rights.

Now we'll be subjected to watching the same Liberal Legal System defend his sorry ass.

Teak · #43 (**permalink**) 03-13-2008, 12:01 AM

Here is another case of the death penalty taking much, much to long to be applied. This scumbag was convicted in 1988 of murdering two women, and ask to be put to death. He died Monday, at age 61, of natural causes.

cbs2.com - Condemned Killer Dies Behind Bars Of Natural Causes

Yellowjacket · #44 (**permalink**) 03-13-2008, 06:16 PM

Realist1 posted:

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I'd love to see the Rights of the People,,,again take center-stage over the "rights" of the criminals... In this Case we're discussing, a known murderer was let out,,,killed his own Family members...
Ideally, everyone's rights should be protected. The difference being, criminals have more advocacy groups who help protect theirs
The piece of shit shot, beat, and sliced "his own Blood" to death. I didn't let him out.... I'm not at all interested in it's Rights.
He apparently was let out because he had served the imposed sentence for his previous crime. Most states have statutes which determine minimum and maximum sentences which may be imposed. Once the imposed sentence is served, the convict MUST be released. In some states, parole boards may grant earlier release under specific supervision, but I don't believe that was so in this case from what I have read.
Now we'll be subjected to watching the same Liberal Legal System defend his sorry ass.

Again, the right to cousel is guaranteed by the Constitution.

Karma will getcha · #45 (**permalink**) 03-13-2008, 06:16 PM

sudzman is a crybaby bitch with no friends. His own family hates him! [removed personal information]

Yellowjacket · #46 (**permalink**) 03-13-2008, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Teak

Here is another case of the death penalty taking much, much to long to be applied. This scumbag was convicted in 1988 of murdering two women, and ask to be put to death. He died Monday, at age 61, of natural causes.
cbs2.com - Condemned Killer Dies Behind Bars Of Natural Causes

The "waiting period" is common in almost all cases unless the convict refuses his right to appeal. Even then, some appeals are mandatory as a form of judicial review to insulate the state and its employees from liability. A favorite tactic of defense attorneys is to wait until the last few days before filing their next appeal to prolong the life of their client. While in some cases, this may be a legitimate wait pending results of an independent investigation, many times it is delay merely for the sake of delay.

Teak · #47 (**permalink**) 03-13-2008, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Yellowjacket

The "waiting period" is common in almost all cases unless the convict refuses his right to appeal. Even then, some appeals are mandatory as a form of judicial review to insulate the state and its employees from liability. A favorite tactic of defense attorneys is to wait until the last few days before filing their next appeal to prolong the life of their client. While in some cases, this may be a legitimate wait pending results of an independent investigation, many times it is delay merely for the sake of delay.

Yeah, yeah, but there is nothing in the constitution that says they must take twenty fucking years. Give the SOB his appeal(s), within 3 years, 1 year for each of his three appeals (local, regional, supreme court). THEN PULL THE SWITCH.

George O Well · #48 (**permalink**) 03-13-2008, 07:24 PM

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Oaklahoma City Bombing still has unanswered questions, in time perhaps we could have extracted more information from McVeigh.

>>>Yeah, someone was in a gawdawful big hurry to get him in the ground.

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Each day neuro-science advances and demonstrates increasing genetic, structural hard-wiring, and biochemical distortions in the brain activity of individuals that comit unthinkable acts

>>>As a child, Bush used to like to pull the wings off birds. I KNOW he is hardwired for no good.

Carson · #49 (**permalink**) 03-14-2008, 07:29 PM

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So, anyone who kills anyone else should be executed in all cases? unless in was in defense of you or your family, in any case other than that yes

Perhaps the real problem is with the prisons which provide absolutely no rehabilitation, but instead turn teenagers into angry and violent adults.

perhaps the problem is that we imprison people for almost no reason

Gummer · #50 (**permalink**) 03-14-2008, 08:05 PM

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So, anyone who kills anyone else should be executed in all cases?

Perhaps the real problem is with the prisons which provide absolutely no rehabilitation, but instead turn teenagers into angry and violent adults.

Yep! unless they killed someone in the defense of self or others.

Yep! If one doesn't know by their teens that killing some is wrong ..... it's too fucking late to do rehab.

Punch the ticket .... their ride on this planet is over.