Feed it to the sharks..

I won't sink to a person like his level. this guy obviously has no regard for anyone but himself. I'm better than that.

when I mentioned personal gain I was refering to people trying to make this into a liberal/conversative issue.
sexual assult is too horrible to wish on anyone. anyone who does so is disgusting and just as immoral as the criminals they wish it on.

I don't think murder- even state sanctioned and carried out by the state- is right. sadly these people are still part of our nation and we have to deal with them. we can't just kill everyone because its cost effective.
I think people in jail for life should be studied by psychologists so we can prevent more of these crime from occuring.
I also think we should increase the jobs we give prisoners- for instance if they clean up after themselves we don't have to hire janitors. there is no reason why people in jail shouldn't work a job or take some classes (if they have a chance of getting out).

darling, I'm a very logic person.
and unlike someone as sick as you, I'd never use this tragedy for political purposes. you are disgusting

Please note: At this point, he is only "accused", not yet guilty of anything. Until he is found guilty, he is presumed innocent in our justice system. Therefore, his Constitutional rights remain intact. You don't have to like it, but you have to live with it, or would you rather eliminate the Constitution?

Don't know where your information comes from, but it sure isn't the case where I work. PC's are completely isolated from GP inmates at ALL times.

Unfortunately, death penalty inmates sometimes remain on death row 20 or 25 years. Many will die of old age before they ever see execution.

They are, AND given extensive mental health "treatment" at taxpayer expense.

No janitors where I work. Inmates who can be trusted with brooms, mops, etc. use them. Also work in kitchen and laundry and other areas. Some simply cannot be out of their cells unrestrained due to security reasons.

Darlin that is dealing with them. There is a big difference between murder and putting a sick or dangerous animal out of its misery. If you were raised in the country especialy on a ranch or a farm your eyes would open ones head gets lazy and clouded living in town pampered and protected from life and the harsh realities that are a necisity to the protection and survival of ones family and community and nation. You know I hunt a bit not as a hobby or a sport. I have never put a stuffed head on my wall and my wife just did not understand and wanted one of the deer head on the wall. She is a southern girl but not country , I told her I would pay to have the next one stuffed and mounted but she had to kill it and gut it. She was not crazy about the idea but she did it but I think just out of stuborness. Until we got got out there and had to shoot it then realized what a tragedy it was to kill such a majestic animal. Then she didn't want to clean it that realy freeked her out. I told her It would lay there then and started walking off she ended up doing it..Well at least helping me. She learned something that day to apreciate the sacrafice that animals make so we can live it is a necesary evil. She don't yell don't kill bambi anymore if it is between eating or not she will take bambi out but she will never sport hunt. Got a little off point here but the thing is people like you are the ones that will eat there 50 dollar steak or hamburger chicken etc. and love it as long as you don't have to bloody your hands. This prick and others like him ya let him come over to your house on house arrest and rehabilitate him yourself. Or put him in jail where he is the burden to all the tax payers you don't want to do what needs to be done because you don't want to get your hands dirty. I bet you would eat veal though huh. Like my papa use to say the ranch or farm don't suffer fools.

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I just really don't think we have the right to say some does not deserve to live- they are too bad to live, they must die.

I know that many inmates do recieve some mental health treatment and some even are studied (there is a difference between private counseling and professional studying). I just wonder what would happen if we could get doctors to want to spend their time trying to find out why someone would kill or rape or has no conscience. I'm very much into prevention of crime and this could be a very useful tool in preventing crime.

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The death penaty is not murder, it is retribution, it is justice. Murder is the crime of killing a person with malice aforethought. Actually keeping them for life is more cost effective than death row, where on average it costs over a million dollars before execution takes place.

[quote]I think people in jail for life should be studied by psychologists so we can prevent more of these crime from occuring.
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Bear in mind, studies may not be physically invasive without the consent of the "patient". Interviewing can, and does take place, but physically invasive "study" would constitute cruel and unusual punishment. Like it or not, inmates still have Constitutional rights, AND the ACLU and other organizations to protect them.

In many cases, there ARE reasons why they cannot work or take classes. Over my career, I've personally seen three co-workers buried and countless others maimed or hospitalized by inmates out of there cells for "work" or "school". This doesn't even include other inmates killed or injured. Some prisoners are just too evil and vicious to integrate with the general population, even if they are not "doing life". Don't expect much sympathy from me, even though I will respect their Constitutional rights. I don't have to like it, I just have to do it.

there is no need for any political mind-sets on this issue.
we are talking about a hurt child and an adult who committed the crime (yes I'm aware he is only accused at this point but even if he is innocent we know it was an adult who it).

you are intentionally perverting my words- for your own gain- I never said he should get counseling. I said we should study him to figure out why he and other people feel the desire to rape young people and have no moral issue with hurting others.

I'm against the death penalty in theory- but as I said, I won't cry if someone like him dies. I won't pander for it or support it happening though.

I can see your point though- the conservative view of locking people up, not trying to rehibilitate them, not trying to prevent crime, and possibly killing them has worked so well. why stop now?

[quote=Yellowjacket;321226]The death penaty is not murder, it is retribution, it is justice. Murder is the crime of killing a person with malice aforethought. Actually keeping them for life is more cost effective than death row, where on average it costs over a million dollars before execution takes place.
there is a big difference between revenge and justice. killing someone is revenge, locking them up is justice

I'm compassionate and sympathetic by nature, but I'm realistic. obviously fixing society will lower crime rate and focusing on rehabilitating youth is more likely to work than fixing older criminals. I wish there was a way to segregate the career criminals from the criminals who want to reform. I have studied things in classes and talked with people who have worked with offenders of all age groups and most agree that if the ones who want to change are put with people who don't, they are easily corupted.