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03-17-2008, 09:06 AM
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"The infant obvioulsy enticed our client and therefore violated his civil rights".
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03-17-2008, 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by wolf_22
I'm just trying to make the point that even people effected by murder take issue with the state killing people. almost every civilized nation on this planet has outlawed capital punishment. I know the US doesn't have to listen to its peers but I think we could get some basic info from this.
we're aligned with the 'bad guys' on this issue.
our constitution allows for capital punishment, but the constitution was written years ago- havn't we evolved?
shouldn't we be better than criminals and refuse to take part in the actions they committ?
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see why don't you answer the question
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03-17-2008, 05:04 PM
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our constitution allows for capital punishment, but the constitution was written years ago- havn't we evolved?
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The laws of the various states dictate whether or not capital punishment is acceptable. The U.S.Constitution merely permits it, it does not mandate it. The state laws are written by legislatures who are popularly elected by the majority of the voters in their respective districts. This is the best way to ensure that the "will of the people" is protected. Since most states have capital punishment statutes, it seems "the people" have not "evolved" as much as you think. If you can get the super majority necessary to amend the Constitution, you can ban capital punishment nationwide. Otherwise it is federally permissable and becomes an issue for individual states to consider, with no state able to force its will on others.
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03-17-2008, 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by oceanbreeze
Iraq war vet accused of baby rape
"Authorities say the then-27-year-old Coleman attacked the baby Sept. 14 in Jackson County's Blackman Township, about 65 miles west of Detroit.
The girl sustained brain damage and 17 broken bones and is undergoing therapy. District Judge R. Darryl Mazur ruled Tuesday there's enough evidence to warrant a trial."
Iraq war vet accused of baby rape - Yahoo! News
This made me physically ill. Tell me why he doesn't deserve the death penality?
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O/B,,, I'm sorry to have to tell you this, but Yahoo no longer makes the Story available...  As far as they're concerned, and a few Liberals out here,,,
A Baby Raper is no longer a concern for them.
"Yahoo". Try and call out the Story yourself. (no Longer Available).
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03-17-2008, 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Realist1
O/B,,, I'm sorry to have to tell you this, but Yahoo no longer makes the Story available...  As far as they're concerned, and a few Liberals out here,,,
A Baby Raper is no longer a concern for them.
"Yahoo". Try and call out the Story yourself. (no Longer Available).
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I don't buy it.
There has been too many lies about our troops floating around.
How is it this child needs therapy? A 3 month old can remember this?
Even if this young lady is 5 years old, who is it that is torturing her with this story of her rape?
This doesn't add up!
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03-17-2008, 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by wow
I don't buy it.
There has been too many lies about our troops floating around.
How is it this child needs therapy? A 3 month old can remember this?
Even if this young lady is 5 years old, who is it that is torturing her with this story of her rape?
This doesn't add up!
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""WOW",,, A sick piece of shit molested a Baby,,,And we have Liberal AssHoles defending him... Please tell me you're not one of them...
A Baby is Raped, and you're worried over Therapy... Idiot Liberal. Tell me I'm wrong, please...
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03-17-2008, 09:40 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Realist1
""WOW",,, A sick piece of shit molested a Baby,,,And we have Liberal AssHoles defending him... Please tell me you're not one of them...
A Baby is Raped, and you're worried over Therapy... Idiot Liberal. Tell me I'm wrong, please...
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Hell no, I'm no sick, disgusting freak Liberal!
I'm defending no one here.
I do know the media lies about our troops daily.
I do know yahoo does delete stories. Too bad we can't read the story.
How many babies remember something that took place when they were 3 months old? NONE
I understand your point and you are right.
I feel like the media scum are attacking the troops.
Last edited by wow; 03-17-2008 at 09:44 PM.
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03-17-2008, 09:59 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wow
I don't buy it.
There has been too many lies about our troops floating around.
How is it this child needs therapy? A 3 month old can remember this?
Even if this young lady is 5 years old, who is it that is torturing her with this story of her rape?
This doesn't add up!
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Don't add up tell that to the fucking idiots that pay for there dog to see a therapist in california. Therapist are another plague that has gotten out of control in our country. Ya I say take care of the baby medicaly and leave it the hell alone raise it and look back in at about 4 or 5 and see if she exibits any behaviors that might show that this affected her. I doubt it would but you never know but don't go asking the child stupid questions that like do you remember this horrible act that no indeed she did not thank god because of her age but she sure as hell has now. But this is the kind of things therapist do I took several classes and in many way it teaches you to ovserve human behavior but then they go past that with bullshit and that is about all it amounts to. Ya I got booted out of a couple of my last classes.
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03-18-2008, 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by 36shadow
Don't add up tell that to the fucking idiots that pay for there dog to see a therapist in california. Therapist are another plague that has gotten out of control in our country. Ya I say take care of the baby medicaly and leave it the hell alone raise it and look back in at about 4 or 5 and see if she exibits any behaviors that might show that this affected her. I doubt it would but you never know but don't go asking the child stupid questions that like do you remember this horrible act that no indeed she did not thank god because of her age but she sure as hell has now. But this is the kind of things therapist do I took several classes and in many way it teaches you to ovserve human behavior but then they go past that with bullshit and that is about all it amounts to. Ya I got booted out of a couple of my last classes.
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LOL
Using the taxpayer's money to keep therapists in business.
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03-18-2008, 01:23 PM
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The report did not specify, but I'm guessing the "therapy" referred to is not of a psychiatric nature, but of a physical one. Possibly for tissue regeneration, or to ensure the broken bones knit in a fashion to ensure mobility and skeletal flexibility later in life. There are many types of therapy that have nothing to do with emotional trauma.
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