Why US law enforcement is bullshit

Rooster · #**171** (**permalink**) 03-13-2008, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by oceanbreeze

how cute...another bird poster at AWE....chicken.

I don't know what you are implying, unless you are just rambling, but my avatar is one of a rooster.

Carson · #**172** (**permalink**) 03-13-2008, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Rooster

I don't know what you are implying, unless you are just rambling, but my avatar is one of a rooster.

All she ever does is ramble Rooster

Dr_Zoidberg · #**173** (**permalink**) 03-23-2008, 06:01 PM

There is a reason they are called PIGS.

"police are NOT your friends, police are NOT heros.....they are mercenaries for the ruthless rich."

Razzputin · #**174** (**permalink**) 03-24-2008, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr_Zoidberg

There is a reason they are called PIGS.

"police are NOT your friends, police are NOT heros.....they are mercenaries for the ruthless rich."

YOU NEED HELP......YOU HAVE TO BE A WING NUT. YOU ARE PROBABLY A CONVICT, OR A FRIEND OF ONE.

Around here, the poor people choose the police officers....from the ranks of other poor people. Always have....always will. The county commissioners are middle class here. The city councils here are comprised of lower middle class to middle class. The police officers here.....some only have high school diplomas....some GED.....most have no degree.....those that do dont make very much money....none that I know of come from rich families. They all answer to the citizen-run court system.

I also know that cops are blue collar workers.....that they are individuals....with individual beliefs in politics. There is more cohesiveness among plumbers than there are cops.

You are obviously a lying gob of slime. For you, I would reccommend that you consider ascribing to the age old saying.....if you are not prepared to face the penalty, then dont do the crime. Your life will surely get better.

kimosdream1 · #**175** (**permalink**) 03-29-2008, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Carson

The majority of law enforcement is not needed. Do we really need so many officers out there handing out tickets and directing traffic? Hell no. Half the time the officers aren't even doing anything just patrolling. And what about all the benefits those police officers and their families are getting. Who funds that the taxpayer. These officers are doing little to make our lives safe, they are just living off the government teat, just like welfare except at least the welfare people don't ask us to thank them. Most police are in their line of work because they are too dumb to do anything else. The majority of our police departments are just another excuse to raise taxes. Besides most officers are guilty of more crimes than the people they are arresting. The main purpose of the police department is to make up bullshit arrests so the system with its judges and lawyers can make more money. We could save trillions a year if we drastically reduced our pork police departments. Police are the scum of the earth.

some of them are scum, some are good men, where i live, it seems the good men have quit the job, we have a police force here that think they are judge and jury. Your comment about the mental state of the police seems to be true, they dont want anyone with any brains, just big massive men that will do what they are told, and can convince themselves right is wrong and wrong is right. The truth is we are living in a police state, the truth is there is a hate between the people and the ones in uniform, and the truth is the people did not cause it to happen, they did. By disrespecting the people and ruling by fear. Our Nation is headed in the wrong direction, and we need to turn it around, most have given up. Any time you give the police such power, it leads to corruption and repression .

SaintMalaclypse · #**176** (**permalink**) 03-29-2008, 01:21 PM

I have no problme with the Officers, per se. They're just working stiffs like the rest of us. The profession itself is a bit unsavory..."Who want to sing up to carry a gun a boss citizens around?" The lure can draw in some unsavory types...but most of them are followinmg orders. If you have a problem with Police, keep in mind: they are part of the Executive branch(es) of City, County, State, and Federal Governments. The Legislative branch decides what is and is not illegal, so a cop has 0% chance of changing the laws you don't want to see enforced.

However! I wish the law enforcement community would go back to their roots: respond to crime and quit pretending to prevent crime. If more cops really meant less crime, then we can just all carry guns and handcuffs and crime would go away. Cops very rarely prevent crime...and when they do, it's a matter of luck, being in the right spot buying coffee when someone was thinking about robbing the convenience store. But for the most part, a cop has NOTHING to do until AFTER a crime has been committed. So, we keep hiring more cops, they have not nearly enough crimes to respond to, so they are sent out in droves to collect revenue.

Is that the cops' fault? Nah. No more than it's my fault when my employer wants to change my job to benefit his wallet. It's a job that feeds the kids. The big decisions are out of the cops' hands.

The biggest problem with pretending cops are supposed to prevent crime is that they are CLUELESS about the Laws. How do you enforce a law you don't understand?

For example: I passed a cop parked on the side of the road handing out a ticket. Kentucky has a "Move Over" law, which is supposed to protect the cops on the side of the road. I didn't move over. Well, this bumfuck chases me down, refuses to listen to me, and gives me a ticket, saying I endangered his life. I asked him, if it's so dangerous on the side of the road, why do you risk people's lives handing out speeding tickets? He couldn't answer.

Anyway, he gave me this ticket based solely on the nmae of the Law..."Move Over". Had he read the law, as I had, he would have known the law clearly says to move over is safely possible OR slow down, which his OWN car-camera verified I had done, and all charges were dropped.

I tried to explain that to him at the scene, but he was a neanderthal jerk who figured his gun made him right.

If cops are going to pretend they need to do something before there's a crime, they need to have a solid understanding of the Law. And since that would involve learning Federal, State, County, and City laws...we'd have to employ lawyers as cops. Or, we could stop pretending cops prevent crime, and put them back to work responding to REAL crimes.

In my particular county, we have 1.3 cops for every violent felony committed ANNUALLY! That means if each of our cops would catch just ONE guy a year, all our violent felons would be off the streets. But no...they're too busy collecting revenue to finance themselves, because they KNOW the taxpayers won't pay for that many cops for so little crime.

But anyway, those are all administrative and legislative problems...I have little problem with the cops themselves. They mostly just want to feed their kids and not get fired each day. Same as all of us.

Carson · #**177** (**permalink**) 03-30-2008, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by SaintMalaclypse

I have no problme with the Officers, per se. They're just working stiffs like the rest of us. No there is a huge difference, I don't work to promote fear and anger, police officers do. They didn't have to become police officers, they chose to. The profession itself is a bit unsavory..."Who want to sing up to carry a gun a boss citizens around?" The lure can draw in some unsavory types...but most of them are followinmg orders. If you have a problem with Police, keep in mind: they are part of the Executive branch(es) of City, County, State, and Federal Governments. The Legislative branch decides what is and is not illegal, so a cop has 0% chance of changing the laws you don't want to see enforced. but it was his choice to get a job enforcing laws they he did not support

However! I wish the law enforcement community would go back to their roots: respond to crime and quit pretending to prevent crime. If more cops really meant less crime, then we can just all carry guns and handcuffs and crime would go away. Cops very rarely prevent crime...and when they do, it's a matter of luck, being in the right spot buying coffee when someone was thinking about robbing the convenience store. But for the most part, a cop has NOTHING to do until AFTER a crime has been committed. So, we keep hiring more cops, they have not nearly enough crimes to respond to, so they are sent out in droves to collect revenue. I believe that the government is giving them the jobs because they aren't capable of doing anything else. Like I said earlier in this thread cops are just welfare cases but worse because after they take a free handout they wanna come harass you

Is that the cops' fault? Nah. No more than it's my fault when my employer wants to change my job to benefit his wallet. It's a job that feeds the kids. The big decisions are out of the cops' hands. exactly since most of the cops can't get a real job we as a people made up that job so we don't have to call them welfare cases or watch their kids starve, but I'll tell it like it is they are the worst of the welfare cases

The biggest problem with pretending cops are supposed to prevent crime is that they are CLUELESS about the Laws. How do you enforce a law you don't understand? and why would you enforce a law you don't believe in?

For example: I passed a cop parked on the side of the road handing out a ticket. Kentucky has a "Move Over" law, which is supposed to protect the cops on the side of the road. I didn't move over. Well, this bumfuck chases me down, refuses to listen to me, and gives me a ticket, saying I endangered his life. I asked him, if it's so dangerous on the side of the road, why do you risk people's lives handing out speeding tickets? He couldn't answer. I'll tell you why because he was too dumb and lazy to apply himself to getting a real job

Anyway, he gave me this ticket based solely on the nmae of the Law..."Move Over". Had he read the law, as I had, he would have known the law clearly says to move over is safely possible OR slow down, which his OWN car-camera verified I had done, and all charges were dropped.

I tried to explain that to him at the scene, but he was a neanderthal jerk who figured his gun made him right. like most cops thats why I hate em

If cops are going to pretend they need to do something before there's a crime, they need to have a solid understanding of the Law. And since that would involve learning Federal, State, County, and City laws...we'd have to employ lawyers as cops. Or, we could stop pretending cops prevent crime, and put them back to work responding to REAL crimes. or we could get rid of most of them since we don't need them

In my particular county, we have 1.3 cops for every violent felony committed ANNUALLY! That means if each of our cops would catch just ONE guy a year, all our violent felons would be off the streets. But no...they're too busy collecting revenue to finance themselves, because they KNOW the taxpayers won't pay for that many cops for so little crime. Exactly it's just a scheme and the cops are ugly welfare cases

But anyway, those are all administrative and legislative problems...I have little problem with the cops themselves. They mostly just want to feed their kids and not get fired each day. Same as all of us.

No not the same as us, I am willing and continue to be willing to do whatever is necessary to not harass innocent people. Its a matter of honor, I have mine while cops check theirs out every time they punch in

dab11999 · #**178** (**permalink**) 04-08-2008, 02:18 PM

One of the things I own is a small vending machine business that my wife and I run out of our home office. When one of our machines was stolen, the officer I tried to file a report with told me, "That's how it goes with those.", and he refused to file a report, or give me a case number. I personally, do not have a lot of faith in police. But then, I don't deal with them often. I'm not a criminal, so I guess I don't warrant their attention. My business isn't rated big enough to deserve protection. If they thought I was guilty of something, I'm sure I would get plenty of attention. Like the old woman on the side of the road being pulled over by 3 police cars.

www.worldagenda.net · #**179** (**permalink**) 05-17-2008, 07:54 AM

The police in the US like any other country is not there to protect and serve the ordinary people but rather to protect and serve the interests of the ruling class. The same goes for the legal system which is why you see a man get imprisoned for stealing a $10 bottle of beer yet a banker gets off with the theft of millions.

newnation · #**180** (**permalink**) 06-02-2008, 07:55 PM

I find that most police personnel I talk to don't understand the laws they are hired to enforce, and they are beholden to popular culture, more than they are strict adherance, which can be good or bad depending on what ordinance it is they are enforcing or neglecting. The most obvious one of late is the noise ordinances most cities have in in place concerning loud tailpipes and mufflers. The popular motorhead and biker scenes of today tear out constantly in cities across the nation with obnoxiously loud tailpipes and the police do nothing about it. Why? Because cars and America go hand in hand. Now if a rock band started jamming out in the park---with their own generator...the police would be there soon to shut it down. Or if i drove thru the streets with a siren or noise making machine at similarly loud decibals the police would probably arrest me. Popular culture dictates what the police will or won't do.