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Old 03-10-2008, 09:13 PM
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Old 03-10-2008, 09:13 PM
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Do we really need so many officers out there handing out tickets and directing traffic?
>>>I think we do. My city has the highest pedestrian accident rate in the country.

On the other hand, cops are almost worthless when it comes to preventing crime. And they ain't worth a whole lot more after the crime has been committed.

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Old 03-10-2008, 09:15 PM
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>>>I think we do. My city has the highest pedestrian accident rate in the country. Your city must have a lot of shitty drivers

On the other hand, cops are almost worthless when it comes to preventing crime. And they ain't worth a whole lot more after the crime has been committed.
They aren't worth a whole lot ever
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Old 03-10-2008, 10:42 PM
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FUNNY THING IS CARSON YOU WOULD BE FIRST CRYING, HARASSMENT, IF THE COPS DID TRY TO PREVENT CRIME/ HAY DON'T HARASS ME, I'M JUST TRYING TO FEED MY FAMILY/ GO SHAKE DOWN THE OTHER DEALERS MAN
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Old 03-11-2008, 08:52 AM
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FUNNY THING IS CARSON YOU WOULD BE FIRST CRYING, HARASSMENT, not seeing the funny part shithead, theres nothing funny about harassment, excuse me for not wanting to be harassed. IF THE COPS DID TRY TO PREVENT CRIME/ HAY DON'T HARASS ME, I'M JUST TRYING TO FEED MY FAMILY/ GO SHAKE DOWN THE OTHER DEALERS MAN
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Old 03-11-2008, 11:08 AM
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the only insult I directed toward you is idiot, I apologize, the rest is just me disagreeing back, thats how you debate, if you want answer what I wrote and disregard the idiot part
Thanks Carson...that's Jake with me.

I did reply to you're one word question "why"?) but it took me some time because the "why" was so small I missed it first time around and inadvertantly picked up on it later.

I try not to use disparaging words simply because it reduces replies to personal arguments and they shouldn't be on a personal level. Anyway, I'm certainly not your enemy, just an interested fellow AWE member passing time.
I must admit to getting personal sometimes but not that way.
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Old 03-11-2008, 01:15 PM
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I personally believe that elimination of the DEA would have a tremendous savings effect on the US budget. I've tried to find stats regarding the war on drugs (how many officers lives lost, total cost since conception vs. how much money in drugs have they "disposed of") and really can't locate it. If we were to legalize drugs and regulate them as we already do alcohol (which is a drug) the money saved already would be tremendous and then the taxes gained from the govt selling the product would be a bonus on top of that. The local drug dealer could get licensed (also a tax income for gov) there would be fewer arrests simply for possession (which becomes a burden on the taxpayer as you will see if you follow the link I'll provide in a moment)
Also I believe crime would probably go down because there would be no more "turf wars" because there would be no need for gangs to sell drugs. (this could be likened to what happened to Al Capone and the like at end of the original prohibition) Would more people go out and buy drugs today if they were legal??? Well, let me answer that question by asking YOU a question. If drugs were legal right now, wouldya go down to the local store and buy a pack of blunts and an lsd snowcone to enjoy this weekend? If you answered NO to that question, then I guess the argument for more people doing drugs if they were legal has been answered. So I guess in some ways I agree that US law enforcement is bs.

since this is my first post it won't let me paste the url to the site here. Site was titled War On Drugs Clock and shows how much money has been spent just so far this year at state, and federal levels. hopefully if you google the title you can find the site. Just a few tidbits of info they had there:

The U.S. federal government spent over $19 billion dollars in 2003 on the War on Drugs, at a rate of about $600 per second. The budget has since been increased by over a billion dollars. State and local governments spent at least another 30 billion.

Arrests for drug law violations in 2008 are expected to exceed the 1,889,810 arrests of 2006. Law enforcement made more arrests for drug law violations in 2006 (13.1 percent of the total number of arrests) than for any other offense.

Police arrested an estimated 829,625 persons for cannabis violations in 2006, the highest annual total ever recorded in the United States, according to statistics compiled by the Federal Bureau of Investigation. Of those charged with cannabis violations, approximately 89 percent, 738,915 Americans were charged with possession only. An American is now arrested for violating cannabis laws every 38 seconds.

Since December 31, 1995, the U.S. prison population has grown an average of 43,266 inmates per year. About 25 per cent are sentenced for drug law violations.

We've been in Iraq for only a few years and people are crying about all the wasted govt money and crying that we should end this war that has no end in sight. We've been in the war on drugs since Ronald Regan (spellcheck please LOL) was in office and have wasted waaaaaaayyyyyyy more money on that war and yet... nobody cryin' bout wasted money here.. why is that?
The statistics I can find show little to no difference in the amount of users now than there were when it started. The substance being abused may be different, but the amount of abusers has basically remained the same.

Those are just a few reasons why I think at least the DEA portion of Us Law Enforcement is BS.
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I personally believe that elimination of the DEA would have a tremendous savings effect on the US budget. I've tried to find stats regarding the war on drugs (how many officers lives lost, total cost since conception vs. how much money in drugs have they "disposed of") and really can't locate it. If we were to legalize drugs and regulate them as we already do alcohol (which is a drug) the money saved already would be tremendous and then the taxes gained from the govt selling the product would be a bonus on top of that. The local drug dealer could get licensed (also a tax income for gov) there would be fewer arrests simply for possession (which becomes a burden on the taxpayer as you will see if you follow the link I'll provide in a moment)
Also I believe crime would probably go down because there would be no more "turf wars" because there would be no need for gangs to sell drugs. (this could be likened to what happened to Al Capone and the like at end of the original prohibition) Would more people go out and buy drugs today if they were legal??? Well, let me answer that question by asking YOU a question. If drugs were legal right now, wouldya go down to the local store and buy a pack of blunts and an lsd snowcone to enjoy this weekend? If you answered NO to that question, then I guess the argument for more people doing drugs if they were legal has been answered. So I guess in some ways I agree that US law enforcement is bs.

since this is my first post it won't let me paste the url to the site here. Site was titled War On Drugs Clock and shows how much money has been spent just so far this year at state, and federal levels. hopefully if you google the title you can find the site. Just a few tidbits of info they had there:

The U.S. federal government spent over $19 billion dollars in 2003 on the War on Drugs, at a rate of about $600 per second. The budget has since been increased by over a billion dollars. State and local governments spent at least another 30 billion.

Arrests for drug law violations in 2008 are expected to exceed the 1,889,810 arrests of 2006. Law enforcement made more arrests for drug law violations in 2006 (13.1 percent of the total number of arrests) than for any other offense.

Police arrested an estimated 829,625 persons for cannabis violations in 2006, the highest annual total ever recorded in the United States, according to statistics compiled by the Federal Bureau of Investigation. Of those charged with cannabis violations, approximately 89 percent, 738,915 Americans were charged with possession only. An American is now arrested for violating cannabis laws every 38 seconds.

Since December 31, 1995, the U.S. prison population has grown an average of 43,266 inmates per year. About 25 per cent are sentenced for drug law violations.

We've been in Iraq for only a few years and people are crying about all the wasted govt money and crying that we should end this war that has no end in sight. We've been in the war on drugs since Ronald Regan (spellcheck please LOL) was in office and have wasted waaaaaaayyyyyyy more money on that war and yet... nobody cryin' bout wasted money here.. why is that?
The statistics I can find show little to no difference in the amount of users now than there were when it started. The substance being abused may be different, but the amount of abusers has basically remained the same.

Those are just a few reasons why I think at least the DEA portion of Us Law Enforcement is BS.
LONG POST FOR YOUR FIRST ONE, HOWEVER THE WAR ON DRUGS WAS JUST AN EXCUSS, AND MEANS,TO FUND THE 100,000 MORE COPS ON THE AMERICAN PEOPLE/ THEY, THE GOVERNMENT COULD CARE LESS ABOUT DRUGS, OR HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE KILLED ON THE ROADS BY DRUNK DRIVERS/ IT'S ABOUT THE MONEY/ CELL PHONE USAGE COMMING TO A FINE NEAR YOU/ IT'S NOT ABOUT THE MONEY, BUT NOW ABOUT THAT MONEY.

LETS FOCUS THAT HUBBEL TELESCOPE AT THE MOON, SEE THAT FIRST, ONE GIANT STEP FOR MANKIND, ONE SMALL STEP FOR MAN/ NOT/ WILL NEVER HAPPEN/ CAN'T FOCUS ON SOUND STAGE/ BUT PAY UP SUCKERS/ GIVE TO ME ALL THAT MONEY, STUPID PIGEON TAX PAYERS.
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Old 03-12-2008, 08:45 AM
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LONG POST FOR YOUR FIRST ONE, HOWEVER THE WAR ON DRUGS WAS JUST AN EXCUSS, AND MEANS,TO FUND THE 100,000 MORE COPS ON THE AMERICAN PEOPLE/ THEY, THE GOVERNMENT COULD CARE LESS ABOUT DRUGS, OR HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE KILLED ON THE ROADS BY DRUNK DRIVERS/ IT'S ABOUT THE MONEY/ CELL PHONE USAGE COMMING TO A FINE NEAR YOU/ IT'S NOT ABOUT THE MONEY, BUT NOW ABOUT THAT MONEY.

LETS FOCUS THAT HUBBEL TELESCOPE AT THE MOON, SEE THAT FIRST, ONE GIANT STEP FOR MANKIND, ONE SMALL STEP FOR MAN/ NOT/ WILL NEVER HAPPEN/ CAN'T FOCUS ON SOUND STAGE/ BUT PAY UP SUCKERS/ GIVE TO ME ALL THAT MONEY, STUPID PIGEON TAX PAYERS.
I'm glad pigeons wrote this because its now obvious he is a complete crackhead
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