I dont much care for this being moved. So we will start it over. Bring on all the compassionite leftys and there baby burning bonfire.

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Cussing out low class inbreds isnt uninteligent, its honest

Good typing is not inteligent its dexiteritous.

Everything you just said is total bullshit

Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-V8Ek...eature=related

THIS IS A RIGHT WING RESPONSE......I HATE THE LEFT WING.....I WOULD DO ANYTHING WITHIN MY POWER TO PREVENT ANY LEFT WING SCUM SACK FROM EVER GAINING CONTROL OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. I BELIEVE IN THIS COUNTRY. I AM FIRST GENERATION AMERICAN ON AT LEAST ONE-SIDE OF MY FAMILY....WE ARE HERE BECAUSE WE COULD NO LONGER BE THERE! WE KNOW THE DESTRUCTION CAUSED BY THE COMMUNIST LEFT IN ANYONE'S COUNTRY. THAT ELEMENT IS INSANE, AND A DANGER TO THE FREEDOMS AND RIGHTS OF EVERY SINGLE PERSON ON THE PLANET!

The fault of WACO rests with David Koresh (who was really named Vernon) and his bunch of brain-washed idiots. There is no other way to slice the pie. Yes, there was law enforcement mishandled, but it never would have gotten to that extreme due to the following:

1. Koresh broke the law in the first place.....he absolutely did....no matter "how small" of an infraction anyone thinks he might have committed.

2. In further breaking of our laws, he resisted a court order issued by a magistrate that the compound would be searched and any evidence was to be brought before the court and preserved for both a prosecutor and a defense attorney. He was guaranteed his day in court before a citizen jury selected from the local voter roles....OR....if he so chose, he could move his case to another district.

3. He was also allowed to access civil courts and file lawsuits against anyone and anything that he felt wronged him or his business establishment, in order to seek redress and settlement. Even this type of case would be turned over again to a jury of citizens selected from the voter roles to decide his case if he so chose.

4. Every citizen that served on any jury in any form of action with the exception of the Gran Jury deciding upon the indictment, was subject to the scrutiny of David Koresh and his attorney in a process called "voir dire" in which they were free to question each potential juror and each alternate juror, and to cause that juror to be immediately dismissed from the jury pool if they did not like the attitudes of that juror on any subject under the sun. The Gran Jury is chosen at random from the voter role and may merely decide whether or not the law had been actually broken and whether or not a prosecutor should be allowed to pursue the case.

5. The mishandled elements of the law enforcement action could have been dealt with by citizen juries, congressmen, senators, the citizen that was elected governor, and each of them could be right-wing.

6. My theory is that David Koresh knew that other crimes he was committing were sure to come to light .... sex crimes against children .... aggravated sexual assault of a child on several counts ..... and he did not want to be charged with those crimes. So he used his brain-washed commune dwellers (yes I said commune - he was a communist!) as FORCE against the police, and everyone was killed as a result. The case was grossly mishandled on several levels, and certain officials contributed to the tragedy.

It is important to remember that irregardless of the law enforcement blunders and outright criminal acts on the part of some of the police officials, that DAVID KORESH was committing crimes also. Failing to permit a court of law from seizing evidence to preserve for a prosecutor and a defense attorney and court of inquiry. Committing aggravated assault and murder of citizens serving as police officers. Violating the laws established by citizen-run legislatures of the state and federal governments. Sexually assaulting children. Brain-washing people in search of a religious life and converting their assets to his personal enrichment.

Using the tragedy at the compound to promote "militia-style" recklessness and to increase dues-paying membership to the "militia-style" radical groups is a common communist tactic, and is clearly an ANTI-AMERICAN-style approach to brain-wash citizens into joining militia groups and turning their personal assets over to militia groups in furtherance of someone's personal enrichment! This is what communism IS....and what it DOES.

I have been to that compound.....several times. I have personally talked to people that were there....up to and including some of the police officers that were there....and even with some of the nuts that showed up to volunteer to shoot it out with the goofy nutty bastards attempting to hold the compound. I know what happened there. And I know the attempts to twist the story all to hell in an effort to propagandize it by several groups.....and I hate those groups for attempting to distort the truth. We have been fed enough lies.....we dont need more of them.

One of the things that will strike you about the compound is that it is not really a compound. It is more of a micro-farm that really doesnt produce anything other than a place to brain-wash the morons that wander in there looking for Jesus and GOD. It is terribly small. It is almost pitiful in size. It is somewhat remote, and somewhat secluded, but it does have neighbors. IT IS the place that a child molesterer would choose to hide his crimes within.

NO ONE HAD ANY RIGHT TO RESIST THAT SEARCH AND ARREST. NO ONE HAD ANY RIGHT TO COMMIT ILLEGAL ACTS IN SERVING THE WARRANTS EITHER. There were many laws fractured out there at that compound, and many crimes committed against the American people that day. And David Koresh is responsible for many of those crimes! As well as some police officials. Had the stupid bastard given up and not resisted, he would have been able to successfully defend himself and possibly receive massive settlements.......but he knew that in any trial, information would come to light that would probably later convict him on future cases for having sexual intercourse with children and defrauding citizens of their funds and possessions.

Dont cry for David Koresh......he didnt cry for children he was victimizing. If you want to cry for someone, cry for the children that suffered and died needlessly, and remember HOW and WHY they died. You cant blame all of this on the police.....you cant even come close and still call it TRUTH. And not every police officer that was there that day committed crimes. There were some noble citizen-police officials there that day as well as some that did not act in noble fashion. SEEK TRUTH...not more brain-washing!

ATF killed innocent people. Koresh was not the only in the building. So far defence of the ATF actions have coem from partisan fanatics.

I do remeber HOW and why the died. Cause the Clinton admin unleashed gestapo tactics and murderous thugs to Kill EVERYBDOY INcluding these children you claim to weep for.

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Cussing out low class inbreds isnt uninteligent, its honest

Good typing is not inteligent its dexiteritous.

Everything you just said is total bullshit

Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-V8Ek...eature=related

In the first place, I can see that you have TUNNEL VISION. In the second, I told you that certain law enforcement officials mishandled the case. In the third place, I hate president Clinton with all of my heart, and NO DEMORAT BASTARD was ever allowed to set foot into my parent's house as they support communism. The rule applies in my own house. NO DEMORAT BASTARD WILL EVER BE ALLOWED TO SET FOOT IN OUR HOME.

TRUTH - Clinton did not even know there was anything going on at Waco until shots were fired. TRUTH - Clinton was no in a position to give orders, and did not give orders. TRUTH - Reno, acting as a legal professional representing the government gave legal opinions to law enfrocement officials attempting to serve warrants. TRUTH - media was exagerated on this matter. TRUTH - militia groups and nuts have attempted to distort the truth on this matter in an effort to garner sympathy for their own agendas among the public. THAT IS A TYPICAL DEMORAT TACTIC AND A TYPICAL COMMUNIST TACTIC.

What is RIGHT here is to hold accountable those responsible for breaking the law.....and that includes accountability for ALL....police officials as well.....making a martyr and a hero out of a man that was half the time a demorat and half the time an idiot and half the time screwing kids and screwing around with his guns, is a very idiotic and a very propagandistic thing for anyone to do.

Most people that develop tunnel-vision in these things HATE the United States of America, and would do anything to hurt it. They would spit on a flag, spit on soldiers, lynch someone, they would run around acting like a bunch of God Damn Communists! And I hate to say it to you.....but I am worried that you are going down that path without realizing it.

When police officials tell falsehoods and destroy notes and documents and records, and mishandle weapons and force issues, then they need to be held accountable. When citizens violate laws, conceal evidence and screw little kids, and fire guns at police officers, then they need to be held accountable. When people come along in the aftermath and attempt to propagandize these things for a personal agenda......then they need to go run out and join the Clinton administration and the left wing idiots, because they are acting just like them!

None of this excuses the actions of DAVID KORESH!

Remember,the LAW is the most important thing.It is not about Justice,it is about theLAW.

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I respect your right to have your own opinion,but I do not necessarily respect your opinion.

The actiosn of teh US goverment kiled those inoocnet vicotms of Koresh..period

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Cussing out low class inbreds isnt uninteligent, its honest

Good typing is not inteligent its dexiteritous.

Everything you just said is total bullshit

Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-V8Ek...eature=related

Razzputin. Why get on here and spout rhetoric? No child was molested. It's been proven. You are about 15 years behind the times. The guns that were there were legal. Period. You didn't bring up Ruby Ridge. A child shot in the back. A preganant woman holding her child. Shot and killed while standing in the doorway with NO WEAPON. The family dog. Shot and stomped on and ran over. The person initially "targeted?" Found innocent and awarded money in a law suit for wrongful death. A government debacle. Twice. Yet you defend? For once, I agree with noneofyourbusiness. You are a mindless drone. Whatever our government does is right? Man, you would have fit right in with Pol Pots regime.

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"Why should my freedom be judged by another man's conscience?"

He said Clinton admin..that includes Reno in the Clinton Administration. Just like Bush is some what to blame for the misinformation given to him by the Bush Admin. about Iraq WMD's.

All I can say is in both Ruby Ridge and Waco ,Law officers were not at all held accountable enough. I met Randy Weaver in the flesh only 4-5 years after
his ordeal. The government opinion of him says I should have seen a wild-eyed anarchist psycho. That was not the sort of man he was when I spoke with him.
He had a sizable family of which half were killed at Ruby Ridge for no reason.
His son and his sons' dog were both shot in the back by cowards masquerading as US Marshals. Officer Lon Horiuchi picked his unarmed wife off while she held their youngest infant daughter. None of these assholes saw an hour of jailtime.
This tale goes down in infamy where I am concerned.
Someone has said Evil triumphs when good men do nothing.
These murderers are still at large ,and it is a huge disgrace.

>>>Try this on for partisan fanaticism. Koresh shot first, drew blood first, killed first. He also planted barrels of gasoline so that they would ignite if the building was stormed. That ain't partisan. Thems just da facts.

If Koresh had been a black thug holed up in a bungalow in South Central LA, you boys would have been there cheering for the LAPD to napalm the place.