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Originally Posted by IHNR
You are a liar and hypocrite because (and I want an answer on this) if this has been the EXACT SAME SITUATION with a Muslim family or Black Panther group. FACT...
Answer the question... why is it because they White and SO-CALLED (load of crap) PRO-AMERICAN, they are above the law and can kill feds and stockpile weapons for the coming RACE WAR.
Actually the two largest terrorist explosions in this country where carried out by white-extremist groups.
Therefore the Muslim extremist and the PRO-AMERICAN extremists are tied for large terrorist acts.
What liberal groups do you know of that can claim the same?
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See , now your hate shows how it is blinding you , and making you irrational and confused.
Your paragraph 1 - Take a breath , get a clue , go back through the thread , and PROVE ME A LIAR OR A HYPOCRITE. I have said NOTHING regarding the whole 'muslim/black panther' issue except this quote ..."We are loyal to the Constitution , and to LAW. You morons put the Black Panthers and muslim extremists in the discussion."
Also relating to that paragraph , you once again show your lack of intellect and communication skills since you start out with a statement , then demand an answer , but pose no question , and make no sense. Imagine that comming from such a great mind as yours.
Second paragraph - Perhaps this is just a continuation of the first? If I assume this is the question you wanted answered , I will accomodate (although , once again , your writing...sheesh).
As to your first claim in the 'question' , "...why is it because they White and SO-CALLED (load of crap) PRO-AMERICAN,..", I NEVER qualified my attack on the governments actions with a claim that the victims were white. In fact , I would not do something that ignorant , since there were several minorities included in the Davidians group.Randy Weaver and his family were , for all intents and purposes , white , for whatever that is supposed to be worth , BUT , NEVER HARMED OR THREATENED ANYONE prior to the RR conflict. As 'SEPERATISTS' , all they wanted was to go to their mountain , away from all the conflict they saw as part of everyday mainstream life , AND LIVE PEACEFULLY , if they would be allowed to. It is PRECISELY because Randy WASN"T a 'bad guy' , that he was targeted - the feds thought they could manipulate him into "doing the right thing". Secondly ,I NEVER called them (the Davidians or the Weavers) 'PRO-American' - EVER. As I recall , I've either referred to them by their names , or on a couple of occasions , collectively , as 'kooks' or 'nuts' or 'CITIZENS'. Since Weaver was in fact a former Green Beret , his service should not be overlooked when judging him.
The second portion of that 'question' goes on to say , "...they are above the law and can kill feds and stockpile weapons for the coming RACE WAR." Again , who said 'above the law'? Not me. "Can kill feds?" First off , there is a concept known as 'justifiable homocide' , as in self-defense , but that DOESN'T matter here , since the gov't forces never really tried a peaceful approach. In both cases , the feds either overstepped or overplayed , with the result being bullets flying before words. In Weavers case , the Marshal was dead , Sammy was dead , and the family dog was dead , in the first few seconds of contact - No options to Weaver. In the Davidians case , the gov't forces wanted a show , to rationalize funding BATF. They, with full knowledge and forethought , presented a scenario to the Davidians that matched PERFECTLY with their 'prophecy'. The fed bosses sent their men to DIE , and to KILL - ON T.V.
NO OTHER REASONABLE CONCLUSION CAN BE DRAWN.
"Stockpile weapons"? Yes , absolutely , without hesitation. ESPECIALLY when done while holding FFL's issued by the gov't. , and possesing items LEGAL under those licenses.
As far as the "coming RACE WAR" , once again , YOUR WORDS. The Davidians had no racist agenda , and the Weavers chose to move away to a mountain ,
TO AVOID RACIAL CONFLICT.
Third 'paragraph' (sentence) - "Actually the two largest terrorist explosions in this country where carried out by white-extremist groups." Well , first off , clarify what two explosions your talking about. Then please enlighten us as to what 'white extremist groups' are responsible.
I'll play along at this point , and assume that one of the incidents you refer to is OKC , right?
I'll answer for you in order to save time - "right pipes , you scumbag."
Well , in case you weren't paying attention to that incident either (which I'm quite sure is the case), the official gov't line is Mcveigh acted alone to set the bomb , and had help from Terry Nichols t create it. Even the 'official' line doesn't make a 'white extremist' connection - because there was none. They DID claim McViegh was sympathetic to such ideals , but NO GROUP WAS INVOLVED (unless you count the gov't itself). There are so may inconsistencies , holes , and questions regarding OKC that you , with your limited command of reason , or grasp of facts , should stay clear of the subject.
As far as the other incident to which you refer , I'm in the dark. In any case , I'm confident your assessment is likely wrong , as it often is.
IHNR , and his sick clan, relish the idea of women and children being tortured and slaughtered. They claim sadness at the fact that ALL of the nuts didn't get burned or shot in the head. They ignore and excuse CLEAR , REPEATED , and EXTREME violations of civil and constitutional rights , federal laws , due process , and common sense. They ignore principle. They resist logic. They refuse to apply critical thought processes to suspect stories and behaviors. They CHANGE what others say , or think , or in some cases , FABRICATE out of thin air , in order to further their mindless loathing.
IHNR = I
HATE the NAZI RIGHT. To him , the 'Nazi' right is anything this side of Stalin.
Hate makes you blind. It makes you deaf. It makes you DUMB.
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