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12-24-2007, 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by marmalade6
Don't you think Cookie's thread might be in response to the courts recent decisions which carry the appearance of political influence.
Forinstance, recent states and supreme court decisions redefining Eminent Domain. Do you believe the intent of E.D. is to seize private property for private development on behalf of private developers?
Hasn't this "fudging" of previously assumed protections occurred under the watch of Bush?
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Thanks for getting this back on track....
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12-24-2007, 10:17 PM
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That's an interesting hypothesis.
Eminent Domain, a legal concept that previously permitted government to acquire private property at "fair market prices" for the benefit of the community or political entity it represented; has been expanded by a court decision to include government's ability to acquire private property to turn it over to another private owner for the sake of development, thereby increasing the tax base.
The basis for your presentation is accurate if you presume the Supremes are a product of the Bush Administration. In that event, it is only logical to extend such reasoning to all decisions issued by the court during the entire eight years of the present administration.
A logical extension of that conclusion therefore must be that with the election of a Democrat to the White House in 2008, does the Court automatically become a "Democrat" court as of January 20, 2009; and will the next President be held as "responsible" for the court's decisions as is President Bush today?
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12-24-2007, 10:36 PM
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LET ME KNOCK THIS TRAIN OFF THE TRACK AGAIN
WHAT IS THE IGNORER COOKIE PARKER DOING ON AN ARGUE SITE.......WITH BACK-UP FROM A NEW DIP WAD SUPPOSED TEACHER
DON'T YOU KNOW TEACHERS ARE HOMO PSYCHIATRY PUSHERS FOR THE NWO
Live Search: TEACHERS ARE HOMO PSYCHIATRY PUSHERS FOR THE NWO
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ANSWER UP OR FUCK YOURSELF
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12-25-2007, 02:33 AM
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Centurion,
The term to me would be "influenced by" the Bush era of corruption to disregard long held public understanding of protection from eminent domain.
Were not real taxes being paid by the original homeowners. So, it appears to be an opportunistic move by the town (New London lets say) to increase town income at the expense of a lovely neighborhood with views of the Sound.
Whether democrat or republican, the eight years of corruption under the Bush administration has caused corruption to become pretty much systemic in government and the corporate world, doncha think?
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12-25-2007, 03:15 PM
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12-25-2007, 04:59 PM
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12-27-2007, 05:16 AM
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Originally Posted by crowonapost
Um ....... on the back cover of my pet goat.
he scribbled something about goats & eating paper...I think it was originally on hemp too.
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What the bushes growing hemp, unbelievable. 
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12-27-2007, 05:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Cookie Parker
Court to be a third branch of our government who defends the constitution and not redefines it...
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Can you post more info, won't use links on this forum, not after my experiences with some spammers on this site.
Interested cookie.
Bush is a fool, like our recently disposed leader, Howard. Problem is Rudd is starting to prove the same, with regards of Kowtowing to your Government. 
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Last edited by Moggy; 12-27-2007 at 05:22 AM.
Reason: can't be bothered
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12-27-2007, 05:49 AM
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Can you post more info, won't use links on this forum, not after my experiences with some spammers on this site.
Interested cookie.
Bush is a fool, like our recently disposed leader, Howard. Problem is Rudd is starting to prove the same, with regards of Kowtowing to your Government. 
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Sure..here's the constitution...
United States Constitution - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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The Constitution consists of a preamble, seven original articles, twenty-seven amendments, and a paragraph certifying its enactment by the constitutional convention.
[edit] Preamble: Statement of purpose
Main article: Preamble to the United States Constitution
The Preamble states:
“ We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America. ”
The Preamble neither grants any powers nor inhibits any actions; it only explains the rationale behind the Constitution and notes by what authority it is enacted. The preamble is a basic statement of purpose that precedes the constitution. The Preamble, especially the first three words ("We the people"), is one of the most-quoted sections of the Constitution.
[edit] Article One: Legislative power
Main article: Article One of the United States Constitution
Article One establishes the legislative branch of government, the United States Congress, which includes the House of Representatives and the Senate. The Article establishes the manner of election and qualifications of members of each House. In addition, it provides for free debate in Congress and limits self-serving behavior of congressmen, outlines legislative procedure and indicates the powers of the legislative branch. There is a debate as to whether the powers listed in Article 1 Section 8 are a list of enumerated powers. These powers may also be interpreted as a list of powers, formerly either executive or judicial in nature, that have been explicitly granted to the U.S. Congress. This interpretation may be further supported by a broad definition of both the commerce clause and the necessary-and-proper clause of the Constitution. The argument for enumerated powers can be traced back to the 1819 McCulloch v. Maryland United States Supreme Court ruling. Finally, it establishes limits on federal and state legislative power.
[edit] Article Two: Executive power
Main article: Article Two of the United States Constitution
Article Two describes the presidency (the executive branch): procedures for the selection of the president, qualifications for office, the oath to be affirmed and the powers and duties of the office. It also provides for the office of Vice President of the United States, and specifies that the Vice President succeeds to the presidency if the President is incapacitated, dies, or resigns, although whether this succession was on an acting or permanent basis was left unclear. In practice, this has always been treated as succession, and the 25th Amendment provides explicitly for succession. Article Two also provides for the impeachment and removal from office of civil officers (the President, Vice President, judges, and others).
[edit] Article Three: Judicial power
Main article: Article Three of the United States Constitution
Article Three describes the court system (the judicial branch), including the supreme Court. The article requires that there be one court called the supreme Court; Congress, at its discretion, can create lower courts, whose judgments and orders are reviewable by the supreme Court. Article Three also requires trial by jury in all criminal cases, defines the crime of treason, and charges Congress with providing for a punishment for it. It also sets the kinds of cases that may be heard by the federal judiciary, which cases the supreme Court may hear first (called original jurisdiction), and that all other cases heard by the supreme Court are by appeal.
[edit] Article Four: States' powers and limits
Main article: Article Four of the United States Constitution
Article Four describes the relationship between the states and the Federal government and amongst the states. For instance, it requires states to give "full faith and credit" to the public acts, records and court proceedings of the other states. Congress is permitted to regulate the manner in which proof of such acts, records or proceedings may be admitted. The "privileges and immunities" clause prohibits state governments from discriminating against citizens of other states in favor of resident citizens (e.g., having tougher penalties for residents of Ohio convicted of crimes within Michigan). It also establishes extradition between the states, as well as laying down a legal basis for freedom of movement and travel amongst the states. Today, this provision is sometimes taken for granted, especially by citizens who live near state borders; but in the days of the Articles of Confederation, crossing state lines was often a much more arduous (and costly) process. Article Four also provides for the creation and admission of new states. The Territorial Clause gives Congress the power to make rules for disposing of Federal property and governing non-state territories of the United States. Finally, the fourth section of Article Four requires the United States to guarantee to each state a republican form of government, and to protect the states from invasion and violence.
[edit] Article Five: Process of Amendments
Main article: Article Five of the United States Constitution
Article Five describes the process necessary to amend the Constitution. It establishes two methods of proposing amendments: by Congress or by a national convention requested by the states. Under the first method, Congress can propose an amendment by a two-thirds vote (of a quorum, not necessarily of the entire body) of the Senate and of the House of Representatives. Under the second method, two-thirds (2/3) of the state legislatures may convene and "apply" to Congress to hold a national convention, whereupon Congress must call such a convention for the purpose of considering amendments. As of 2007, only the first method (proposal by Congress) has been used.
Once proposed—whether submitted by Congress or by a national convention—amendments must then be ratified by three-fourths (3/4) of the states to take effect. Article Five gives Congress the option of requiring ratification by state legislatures or by special conventions assembled in the states. The convention method of ratification has been used only once (to approve the 21st Amendment). Article Five currently places only one limitation on the amending power—that no amendment can deprive a state of its equal representation in the Senate without that state's consent.
[edit] Article Six: Federal power
Main article: Article Six of the United States Constitution
Article Six establishes the Constitution, and the laws and treaties of the United States made in accordance with it, to be the supreme law of the land, and that "the judges in every state shall be bound thereby, any thing in the laws or constitutions of any state notwithstanding." It also validates national debt created under the Articles of Confederation and requires that all legislators, federal officers, and judges take oaths or affirmations to "support" the Constitution. This means that the states' constitutions and laws should not conflict with the laws of the federal constitution—and that in case of a conflict, state judges are legally bound to honor the federal laws and constitution over those of any state.
Article Six also states that "no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States".
[edit] Article Seven: Ratification
Main article: Article Seven of the United States Constitution
Article Seven sets forth the requirements for ratification of the Constitution. The Constitution would not take effect until at least nine states had ratified the Constitution in state conventions specially convened for that purpose. (See above Drafting and ratification requirements
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12-27-2007, 06:03 AM
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Good read, thanks Cookie, but who sets the limits of self-serving Congressmen, why did your nation vote in a family who's origins stem from the Germanic Nazi Party. Lets face it Cookie, only in America, during the 1930's an 1940's do you see the Nazi flag and American flag flying together, recorded on film.
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