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12-19-2007, 02:45 AM
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TThey are impotent with the US. Your the problem with the organsation. I continue to beg you whiners to quit your bitching and DEMAN you withdraw from the charter....PLLLLEEEEEASSSE
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How am I the problem with the UN?  Try proofreading, you might like it.
They aren't impotent with the US, at least not militarily. But when they try to do things on their own, like for example, when they try do anything in Africa - which takes a lot.
I wouldn't mind if we got out of the UN. The only reason to stay in is for appearances.
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12-19-2007, 03:17 AM
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You are AMERICAN Therefore your the problem. Just get the fuck out of it and quite whining. Just Get out. What fuck happens after that to the UN doesnt matter. Just get out.
Appearances? LMFAO. America is consistantly on the high end of the UN list of human rights violators. Your appearnece to the majority of the world is a bully invader and underhanded bunch of warmongering sons of bitches. fuck appearnces just get out. Insist to all elected officals to abbadond the charter. That will be GREAT. I and damn near everybody else on the planet will sign the petition if it helps..
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12-19-2007, 03:30 AM
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Originally Posted by noneof yourbusiness
You are AMERICAN Therefore your the problem. Just get the fuck out of it and quite whining. Just Get out. What fuck happens after that to the UN doesnt matter. Just get out.
Appearances? LMFAO. America is consistantly on the high end of the UN list of human rights violators. Your appearnece to the majority of the world is a bully invader and underhanded bunch of warmongering sons of bitches. fuck appearnces just get out. Insist to all elected officals to abbadond the charter. That will be GREAT. I and damn near everybody else on the planet will sign the petition if it helps..
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American aren't the problem, if we were then when we weren't involved then they could get shit done . . . but they can't.
Like I said, I wouldn't mind one bit if we got out, but I don't get to make that choice. The biggest advantage we have is the Security Council veto, which was a stupid idea anyway, I am just not sure it is worth the 22% we pay to keep the UN in business.
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12-19-2007, 03:45 AM
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What is asinine about the United Nations and one of my many personal qualms with it..
FUCKING COMMUNIST CHINA IS ON THE HUMAN RIGHTS COUNCIL!
A nation who ran over protestors with tanks. Whose regime doesnt acknowledge the tens of millions of deaths it has caused.
Political dissenters are arrested, media is censored.
What kind of Human Rights are they professing when Communist China is allowed to be on the Human Rights Council?
Also the United States domestic affairs are under direct threat from the United Nations. They want to ban private ownership of Guns. They want a United Nations Military. They want to impose a Global Tax...
They are threat to National Sovereignty, to every Nation State. I doubt a European would give a shit about Soveriegnty as they seem to be posterchildren of Continental Super States.
Shit Europeans do not even have Liberty. They simply traded the Sovereignty of Monarchs for the Sovereignty of Parliaments, with little regard to the people. They are taxed to death. European Governments have a level of Beauracracy 100 times that of America. Not to mention they champion thought control policies, by attacking people who share different views of History, Politics, Religion.
Europeans also have attacked a Christian's right to believe Homosexuality is sinful.
England gave away it's personal privacy in large Cities so Big Brother can keep a careful watch on everyone with Cameras on every corner cataloging Citizen's every movement and action. Keeping track of all Financial transactions.
And Liberals want America to be more like Europe? Fuck that shit.
We need to fight off the Globalist Policies already in America as it is. Not embrace N.A.U. or NAFTA, CAFTA, WTO, and countless other International Treaties that usurp American Sovereignty.
In short, This is a Republic, not a damn State of the United Nations.
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12-19-2007, 04:15 AM
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Nobdy in the US goverment will ever allow domestic policy to be affected by the UN. What the UN says about it is meaningless. The US goverment subverts any attempt by the UN to do anything the US desont agree with then blames the UN for it LOL.
Write Your Representative - Contact your Congressperson in the U.S. House of Representatives. here everyobdy tell your guy in DC that you wont vote for him till UN charters are recinded. PLEASE!!!
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12-19-2007, 04:37 AM
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Your basically isolating the United States when a lot of Nations have Veto Power.
On the Security Council
The United States of America
The French Republic
The Russian Federation
The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland
The People's Republic of China
All of them have Veto power.
All of them have used the Veto Power to protect there own interests.
Security Council veto power usage** Fun facts to show and tell at your local coffee shop
Your assuming the United States has ultimate say. Russia, France, Communist China, England, and of course America Veto to protect there own interests.
You would have the same crap if America left, only you would not blame the other Nation. Most likely you would find some asinine reason to Blame America for the United Nations Shortcomings, when in factuality its an outdated, irrelevant organization that does little benefit to the majority of it's members. Besides giving repressive regimes like China and Islamic Theocracys a voice to rabble on about the west.
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12-19-2007, 05:15 AM
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So what now you want to stay in the UN????
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12-19-2007, 10:34 AM
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So what now you want to stay in the UN????
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Screw the UN. I agree the U.S. should withdraw from that worthless organization. Without the U.S. funding 80% of their actions, they couldn't afford to pay their NYC parking tickets.
Within 12 months of the U.S. withdrawal, the UN would collapse, due to lack of funds, equipment, personnel and competence.
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12-19-2007, 12:09 PM
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ONLY GOD CAN ABOLISH DEATH
does the UN think they are GOD
http://www.arguewitheveryone.com/lob...tml#post271151
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12-19-2007, 01:05 PM
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THe American make the UN worhtless. They also hate it. So why dont they get. It could function far better without them. They cn save money and they stop crying. All perment members of the Secruity council AKA the WW2 ALlies should all recind membership. The Americans first though
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Everything you just said is total bullshit
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