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04-03-2007, 09:35 AM
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I will get off my soapbox, I was told I was being PC. 
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04-03-2007, 09:40 AM
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Mommy, we love you anyway. Thanks for the link.
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04-03-2007, 09:42 AM
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Never said it didn't cause cancer, said it didn't cause lung cancer. Still don't believe that is an issue regardless of what this piece says. I smoke, maybe, a dozen cigars a year. I am not concerned about 2nd hand smoke or cancer of any type from cigars. I was a cigarette smoker for about 15 years and quit almost 30 years ago. I smoked 2 to 3 packs a day, now there I was concerned about lung cancer and that is one of the reasons I quit. Cigars?? I am more likely to get killed on my motorcycle then I am to die from lung cancer from cigar smoking.
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04-03-2007, 01:51 PM
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Never said it didn't cause cancer, said it didn't cause lung cancer. Still don't believe that is an issue regardless of what this piece says. I smoke, maybe, a dozen cigars a year. I am not concerned about 2nd hand smoke or cancer of any type from cigars. I was a cigarette smoker for about 15 years and quit almost 30 years ago. I smoked 2 to 3 packs a day, now there I was concerned about lung cancer and that is one of the reasons I quit. Cigars?? I am more likely to get killed on my motorcycle then I am to die from lung cancer from cigar smoking.
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My 64 year old dad quit in the 1980's, he's unexpectedly dying of stage 4 pancoast cancer. I won't apologize for caring about people who smoke and wanting them to quit.
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04-03-2007, 02:24 PM
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My 64 year old dad quit in the 1980's, he's unexpectedly dying of stage 4 pancoast cancer. I won't apologize for caring about people who smoke and wanting them to quit.
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Lady, I am very glad that you care enough to tell us that we are harming our bodies.
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04-03-2007, 02:32 PM
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My 64 year old dad quit in the 1980's, he's unexpectedly dying of stage 4 pancoast cancer. I won't apologize for caring about people who smoke and wanting them to quit.
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My mother died at age 61 of a stroke brought on by high blood pressure exacerbated by her smoking unfiltered cigarettes. My father died at age 64 of emphysema as a result of working in a coal mine and smoking unfiltered cigarettes, my sister died at age 44 of breast, bone and brain cancer, in my opinion a result of her smoking 3 packs of cigarettes every day. My brother died at age 44 of some unknown disease, probably diabetes but he also smoked several packs a day. My aunt died at age 89, she never smoked a day in her life, my grand aunt (my mothers aunt and the woman we treated as a grandmother) died at age 98 and she never smoked. My grandmother on my father's side died at the age of probably 60 of unknown causes but I am sure high blood pressure had something to do with it. She did not smoke but she did dip snuff (she was from West Memphis AR and lived and worked on a cotton farm), my grandfather on my father's side died around the age of 40 of a gunshot wound to the head. Its not certain but I think he was trying to steal a pack of cigarettes
So, Lady, I am aware of the dangers of tobacco and I quit in 1978 (cold turkey I might add). However, no one lives forever and quality of life is as important to me as quantity of life. I don't think smoking one cigar a month puts me at a greater risk than riding my motorcycle 10,000 miles a year. Hell, I go trout fishing, I am at risk of drowning while out fishing. If we did nothing to put us at risk we would do nothing period. I once read an article in the newspaper where some fisherman caught a fish and somehow swallowed it and choked to death. Of course he had an Italian name and was fishing in New Jersey with other men with Italian names like Vinny the Bull and Dominic the Stomper so there may be more to that story then the newspaper was telling.
I appreciate your concern and frankly you sound like my wife but I love her anyway and I won't call Dom the Stomper to pay a visit 
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04-03-2007, 03:09 PM
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Thank you kindly for the link (I think, I haven't looked at it yet and it might be pictures of a vile and disgusting nature  )
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04-03-2007, 03:19 PM
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Nathan; What you see is what you get with me, it's truly a cigar forum and quite interesting at that with customs ect..
My maternal grandpa was a pipe smoker and my paternal grandpa was a cigar smoker. Only one got esophagus cancer, the pipe smoker, he survived it, died of a heart attack in 1992, the other died of Parkinson's in 2001. RIP grandpas'. 
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04-03-2007, 03:29 PM
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Nathan; What you see is what you get with me, it's truly a cigar forum and quite interesting at that with customs ect..
My maternal grandpa was a pipe smoker and my paternal grandpa was a cigar smoker. Only one got esophagus cancer, the pipe smoker, he survived it, died of a heart attack in 1992, the other died of Parkinson's in 2001. RIP grandpas'. 
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Aw lady I was just jerking you around. I looked at the site and it does appear to be very interesting. So, I am offering a box of truffles as a peace offering 
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