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Old 06-10-2008, 09:03 PM
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youdont know shit about any of this fatty. Shut the fuck up you lying sack of shit.
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Old 06-10-2008, 09:55 PM
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youdont know shit about any of this fatty. Shut the fuck up you lying sack of shit.
Oh. I'm female. I'm suppose to be afraid of snakes and insulted by the fat word. BAHAHAHAHAHAHAH..................not.
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Old 06-10-2008, 10:10 PM
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You dont know shit. Fuck off slime bag liar.
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Old 06-10-2008, 11:24 PM
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You dont know shit. Fuck off slime bag liar.
What am I lying about now?

I'm really Mork from Ork. Nano

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Old 06-10-2008, 11:38 PM
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The War On Waste, Defense Department Cannot Account For 25% Of Funds — $2.3 Trillion - CBS News

They dont need more money they need to find what they already got
This is ignored comepletely. Pretty strange.
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Old 06-10-2008, 11:44 PM
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This is ignored comepletely. Pretty strange.
noyb; that is a good topic. I do know that some army military posts are sorely lacking in facilities, such as the recent Ft. Bragg barracks. All I can speak for is the Army and we definitely don't have a silver spoon in our mouth. I think contractors are over paid for shoddy work. I think alot of money is also wasted on multiple military moves. If I recall they were going to keep people stationed in one place for 6 years. It never happened for us.
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Old 06-10-2008, 11:46 PM
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theres no defense of the loss of money of that mangitude.
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Old 06-10-2008, 11:48 PM
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theres no defense of the loss of money of that mangitude.
I agree with you 100%. Someone is lining their pockets at all of our expense.
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Old 06-10-2008, 11:54 PM
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Yes, you can't be more right.

I see (from before) many have tried to chime in here and 'crunch' my numbers. I got the numbers from the National Archives...I said that. Go look them up at that point.

Next, depending on what level you think our government is supposed to be commited to a war or the casualites (afterwards) of said war is really up to you. I personally think wars should (directly) be fought with this in mind and as per what the REAL goal is and what you get out of it in the end. Except for endless platitudes and shifting goal posts there has never been a clear objective for Iraq. Right now Al Qaida is doing pretty damn well in Pakistan, why don't we invade that country? Are not the casualties worth the cost of 'protecting America'? Ask the right questions and it might surprise you how f*cked up we really are right now.

I again refer all to reading the study by Ginsberg and Associates that was done after WWII, commissioned by Eisenhower. It goes through all these numbers and what war really costs us and what is the proper way to prepare for war in the future.

BTW Sam, your countrymen (the French) did a study about all this stuff after they pulled out of Africa and Indochina. They realized some grave mistakes and we did not listen to any of that or any of our own assessments before invading Iraq...truly pathetic.
ong. The goivermetn can account for the mopney it has. There is nothign to say giving it more wont turn up just as lost AKA stolen. This in World War Two and there is nothing going on this nation that would ever com close to comparison. Differnt time differnt people. Wasting more money an incompentent goverment is not going to get Veterans any better off.
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Old 06-11-2008, 12:56 PM
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ong. The goivermetn can account for the mopney it has. There is nothign to say giving it more wont turn up just as lost AKA stolen. This in World War Two and there is nothing going on this nation that would ever com close to comparison. Differnt time differnt people. Wasting more money an incompentent goverment is not going to get Veterans any better off.
News & Culture in CA | Dianne Feinstein resigns
Senator exits MILCON following Metro exposé, vet-care scandal

By Peter Byrne

SEN. Dianne Feinstein has resigned from the Military Construction Appropriations subcommittee. As previously and extensively reviewed in these pages, Feinstein was chairperson and ranking member of MILCON for six years, during which time she had a conflict of interest due to her husband Richard C. Blum's ownership of two major defense contractors, who were awarded billions of dollars for military construction projects approved by Feinstein.

As MILCON leader, Feinstein relished the details of military construction, even micromanaging one project at the level of its sewer design. She regularly took junkets to military bases around the world to inspect construction projects, some of which were contracted to her husband's companies, Perini Corp. and URS Corp.

Perhaps she resigned from MILCON because she could not take the heat generated by Metro's expose of her ethics (which was partially funded by the Investigative Fund of the Nation Institute). Or was her work on the subcommittee finished because Blum divested ownership of his military construction and advanced weapons manufacturing firms in late 2005?

The MILCON subcommittee is not only in charge of supervising military construction, it also oversees "quality of life" issues for veterans, which includes building housing for military families and operating hospitals and clinics for wounded soldiers. Perhaps Feinstein is trying to disassociate herself from MILCON's incredible failure to provide decent medical care for wounded soldiers.

Two years ago, before the Washington Post became belatedly involved, the online magazine Salon.com exposed the horrors of deficient medical care for Iraq war veterans. While leading MILCON, Feinstein had ample warning of the medical-care meltdown. But she was not proactive on veteran's affairs.

Feinstein abandoned MILCON as her ethical problems were surfacing in the media, and as it was becoming clear that her subcommittee left grievously wounded veterans to rot while her family was profiting from the occupations of Iraq and Afghanistan. It turns out that Blum also holds large investments in companies that were selling medical equipment and supplies and real estate leases—often without the benefit of competitive bidding—to the Department of Veterans Affairs, even as the system of medical care for veterans collapsed on his wife's watch.

As of December 2006, according to SEC filings and Welcome to FedSpending.org, three corporations in which Blum's financial entities own a total of $1 billion in stock won considerable favor from the budgets of the Department of Defense and the Department of Veterans Affairs:

# Boston Scientific Corporation: $17.8 million for medical equipment and supplies; 85 percent of contracts awarded without benefit of competition.

# Kinetic Concepts Inc.: $12 million, medical equipment and supplies; 28 percent noncompetitively awarded.

# CB Richard Ellis: The Blum-controlled international real estate firm holds congressionally funded contracts to lease office space to the Department of Veterans Affairs. It also is involved in redeveloping military bases turned over to the private sector.

You would think that, considering all the money Feinstein's family has pocketed by waging global warfare while ignoring the plight of wounded American soldiers, she would show a smidgeon of shame and resign from the entire Senate, not just a subcommittee. Conversely, you'd think she might stick around MILCON to try and fix the medical-care disaster she helped to engineer for the vets who were suckered into fighting her and Bush's panoply of unjust wars.

Contact Peter Byrne or send a letter to the editor about this story.
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