Where are you at Nazi? It is the third time you asked for those questions and now you are running again.

Well, I'm sorry Nathan yet we HAVE seen PROOF of black holes. Time and space are wrapped together like a fabric based Newtonian laws of gravity as well as Einstein relativity. We have seen the gravitational effect of light and space being "warp" near an area of space devoid of any large body that could product this effect, therefore PROVING that a black hole does exist. At its core a SINGULARITY of infinite density created the "warp" in space/time known as a black hole.

What do you think is at the heart of the phenomenon Nathan? God?

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I'm here, did you post them? Post them now and I don't want a a fucking link I want them written out so the forum can see them...

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The government of the United States is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion.

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Also it is now commonly believed that at the center of the spinning galaxies including our own are MASSIVE black holes whose gravitational grip holds the entire galaxy together and like water flowing down a drain, causes the galaxy to "spin" our very solar system makes one round every 100,000 million years or so...

Steady State can not explain this observation...

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The government of the United States is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion.

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[quote=I_Hate_the_Nazi_Right;270587]Well, I'm sorry Nathan yet we HAVE seen PROOF of black holes. Time and space are wrapped together like a fabric based Newtonian laws of gravity as well as Einstein relativity. We have seen the gravitational effect of light and space being "warp" near an area of space devoid of any large body that could product this effect, therefore PROVING that a black hole does exist. At its core a SINGULARITY of infinite density created the "warp" in space/time known as a black hole.

What do you think is at the heart of the phenomenon Nathan? God?[/QUOTE

There is no "proof" of black holes, we have never seen a black hole. I am not going to argue with you on this since there is no way to resolve it. We have seen an affect that we attribute to black holes but we don't know for an absolute fact that they exist.

I have told you over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over that I believe in God and yes I think God is the creator of the Universe. I believe that God is the creater of all things seen and unseen. I believe that for some perverse reason Nazi He even created you. However, I also believe that we can know many of His wonders but none of His secrets.

You know, you really are an arrogant twisted son of bitch. We tell you what we think and two post later you act like we never said anything. Now, I would suggest you go back and reread my post because I am not going to repeat myself anymore.

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[quote=nathanbforrest45;270596]What you are forgetting Nathan the "Event Horizon where light is "trapped" by the gravitation pull of the singularity at the end of its gravitational hold on the light trying to escape from the gravitation pull.

If you are saying you do not believe in black holes then I will with vigor challenge you on this point.

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The government of the United States is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion.

John Adams from the " Treaty of Tripoly, article 11

Where are you dommy? Scared to be made a fool of? I dare you join our conversation, if you've read the books you claim to have then you should be able to add much do our discussion.

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The government of the United States is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion.

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Never said I did not believe in black holes. Only said we have never seen one. We have seen what we believe is a phenomenom that can only be explained by math that has been termed "black hole" I believe it was named black hole because the gravitation pull is so great it will not even allow light to excape.

I am saying that next week or next year we may have a new theory that totally negates black holes.

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Actually, I thought black holes were supposed to be collapsed supernovas that have become so dense it creates the gravitational pull.

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BTW Nazi
I am going to the Annual Christmas Dinner for the Knoxville Observers tonight. It is the local astronomy club of which I am a member. I will bring this up with other members and see what they say about this.

Knoxville Observers Where Astronomy is Fun

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