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Old 09-06-2007, 02:58 PM
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This was doomed from the very beginning. It obviously does not matter to the Surrendercrats what is actually going on in Iraq. They are heavilly invested in our defeat. I believe if God himself said the surge was working the Surrendercrats would claim He was on Bush's payroll.

I heard UpChuckie Squirmer claim the situation was getting better in Iraq "in spite of the surge" His claim was that our troops were so poor that it has caused the various tribes to ban together to protect themselves.

What kind of true American would go on national TV and claim our soldiers were losers?

If the leftist Surrendercrats win in 08 the United States is finished. We will go the way of the Roman and Greek empires of old.
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Old 09-06-2007, 03:07 PM
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Reid said he would not believe him. I told you I couldn't get the link to work and gave you the terms to google.

Dems skipped out on meetings and you see it as a valid excuse? I guess all that war is the big issue talk to get elected wasn't all that important, what with them skipping out on briefings about the war. You can believe what you want. I am not going to have my intelligence insulted by even pretending to believe the excuses offered.
Dems is plural, Dom....outside of Pelosi, who else did not attend the April briefing?
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Old 09-06-2007, 03:15 PM
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Well, if Reid did indeed say that, than he's an idiot...although neither of your links claimed that he said that. I'm not sure what to think of the Pelosi thing....I guess it depends on the quality of their 30 minute conversation.....maybe the right made more out of this than they should have. And just for the record, Dom, I'm not a Democrat....even though I lean left. The only party I belong to is one that is serving beer...
I could not find any credible links that quote Reid saying he refuses to listen to what Petreaus has to say-maybe he said it ,but I could not find it. That would not be impressive if he refuses to attend.

As far as Pelosi SN- look at the date of the ABC link- it is referring to a last minute briefing last spring and is not even referring to Petreaus September report.

SN- I knew you were thinking of the commie party -as far as political party I did finally register as a Democrat because I lean left and wanted to vote in the primaries-I would prefer to be registered as an independent- if I could vote in one parties primariy as a condition of this.

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Reid said he would not believe him. I told you I couldn't get the link to work and gave you the terms to google.

Dems skipped out on meetings and you see it as a valid excuse? I guess all that war is the big issue talk to get elected wasn't all that important, what with them skipping out on briefings about the war. You can believe what you want. I am not going to have my intelligence insulted by even pretending to believe the excuses offered.
Dom- Can you show me a link on who is skipping Petreaus September briefing?
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Old 09-06-2007, 03:20 PM
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SN- I knew you were thinking of the commie party -as far as political party I did finally register as a Democrat because I lean left and wanted to vote in the primaries-I would prefer to be registered as an independent- if I could vote in one parties primariy as a condition of this.
Are there any other kind???
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Old 09-06-2007, 03:41 PM
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Reid said he would not believe him. I told you I couldn't get the link to work and gave you the terms to google.

Dems skipped out on meetings and you see it as a valid excuse? I guess all that war is the big issue talk to get elected wasn't all that important, what with them skipping out on briefings about the war. You can believe what you want. I am not going to have my intelligence insulted by even pretending to believe the excuses offered.
I found it and it worked for me.
YouTube - Harry Reid won't listen to General Petraeus
Harry Reid impresses me less and less. As a Senator, I would say that General Petraeus is a very important source of information...not the only source, but an important one. Hey, maybe I should go into politics...
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Old 09-06-2007, 03:59 PM
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I found it and it worked for me.
YouTube - Harry Reid won't listen to General Petraeus
Harry Reid impresses me less and less. As a Senator, I would say that General Petraeus is a very important source of information...not the only source, but an important one. Hey, maybe I should go into politics...
Yes I agree SN that Reid puts his foot in his mouth sometimes and I am not a big fan of his. I do note on the video - the journalist ask Reid in April if Petraeus were to tell him the surge was working at that point would Reid believe it-Reid then says no he would not believe the surge was working at that point in time (referring to the surge in April.) I have not heard him say he would disregard anything Petreaus says- the journalist framed a rhetorical question and Petraeus answered the statement she posed.Now if Reid were a good politician he would have answered "Let me see what Petraeus has to say?" and of course at that point in April Petraeus would not have been so foolish to declare the surge a success-it had not even reached it's full operation at that point in time.

I suspect that Petraeus will be very factual and forthcoming if allowed and both sides will use his report to support their argument. I have not heard any congressman say they refuse to listen to his report tomorrow. September 11- what a date to release a reoport on Iraq.

(hey I would vote for you SN-except you would have to give up the commie parties and beer)

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YouTube - Harry Reid won't listen to General Petraeus
Harry Reid impresses me less and less. As a Senator, I would say that General Petraeus is a very important source of information...not the only source, but an important one. Hey, maybe I should go into politics...
I'd vote for you. (or sam. or crow. or petey)

Well, I'm not a Democrat, but I've always disliked Reid. There is something about him that I find disingenous
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Wed, 09/05/2007 - 11:58 — AP newsdesk


August 31, 2007 -- Washington, D.C. – Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid today announced that the U.S. Senate and House of Representatives’ Committees on Armed Services and Foreign Relations and the Senate Intelligence Committee will hold a series of hearings during the first two weeks of September examining the war in Iraq. The hearings will focus on three upcoming reports as well as the recently published National Intelligence Estimate on Iraq and feature testimony by the Government Accountability Office (GAO), retired Marine General James Jones, and the Commander of the Armed Forces in Iraq General David Petraeus and U.S. Ambassador in Iraq Ryan Crocker.
The hearings will examine the ongoing situation in Iraq and the effectiveness of the President’s war policy. Congress voted in May to require reports from the GAO, General Jones, and the White House to look at the political and military situation in Iraq. The American people expect an honest and open debate and for Congress to be given the facts.

(I did find this which appears as though both Pelosi and Reid not only attend but be holding hearings and carefully considering not only Petraeubut other reports as listed above.)

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Yes I agree SN that Reid puts his foot in his mouth sometimes and I am not a big fan of his. I do note on the video - the journalist ask Reid in April if Petraeus were to tell him the surge was working at that point would Reid believe it-Reid then says no he would not believe the surge was working at that point in time (referring to the surge in April.) I have not heard him say he would disregard anything Petreaus says- the journalist framed a rhetorical question and Petraeus answered the statement she posed.Now if Reid were a good politician he would have answered "Let me see what Petraeus has to say?" and of course at that point in April Petraeus would not have been so foolish to declare the surge a success-it had not even reached it's full operation at that point in time.

I suspect that Petraeus will be very factual and forthcoming if allowed and both sides will use his report to support their argument. I have not heard any congressman say they refuse to listen to his report tomorrow. September 11- what a date to release a reoport on Iraq.

(hey I would vote for you SN-except you would have to give up the commie parties and beer)
Hey I should not post in the car - I just reread my post and saw that I said Petraeus (when I meant Reid ) was responding to a journalist's hypothetical question -posed in April about the surge.
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Old 09-06-2007, 09:31 PM
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That is something you don't have in common with some of your party leaders then.
Do you always agree with all your party leaders?

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I remember it being said on here and links were even provided. Reid says he won't believe a word he says anyway, and other Dems skip out on the meetings.

Dom I watched the You tube link-it was Reid responding to an interview question that was specific to a hypothetical scenario .

Can you show me any link where Democrats are refusing to attend or refusing to listen to Petraeus September briefing or in general?

The only information I could find was that they would all attend and that they would be considering the Petreaus and Crocker briefings along with Ret. marine General Jones report, the IAE report on Iraq, the GAO report and they would be holding hearings for several weeks. Can you provide any links of Democrats refusing to attend or refusing to consider Petraeus September briefing ?
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