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Old 06-20-2007, 08:14 PM
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Ah Mom, you need to cut back on your PROZAC! I just can't understand why Conservatives love the fetus! and yet forgets and hates the child enough that millions of these children go thru life w/o affordable healthcare!

Point is, if conservatives care about the children that are already here as much as they cared about the unborn fetus, we would have health care for the 37-40 million men, women and children who currently don't have it.

We are the only industrialized country w/o National Healthcare for ALL AMERICANS.

Don't get me wrong, it's mighty noble of you conservatives to care about the unborn fetus......however, now you guys need to join the 21st Century and legislate as hard as you have for the unborn FETUS, for ensuring that when those FETUS'S become CHILDREN, THEY HAVE HEALTHCARE!!!!!
some one up there is making to much money to fix the health care system it's so complicated and fucked up it makes no sense except that some one if not all of them are getting something conservative and liberal alike.
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Old 06-20-2007, 09:11 PM
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Denial is a wonderful place to be as long as your conscience allows you to remain there. I tripped on nothing. I simply pointed out that the Constitution actually provides protection for the lives of these preborn infants (our posterity) and the abortion laws are in violation of those protections, meaning the courts have sanctified the unconstitutional/illegal murder of our posterity. It has nothing to do with opinion.
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Wanna bet? A great many "babies" have been born extremely premature and done just fine. Kix and I have triplets that were born 12 weeks early. That means they were born at a time when a many women murder their preborn infants. They are 23 years old now and with the exception of one who had a brain injury shortly after birth due to doctor error they're fine. So they don't "need mom" in order to complete their gestation.
Happy for you that it worked out, not always the case. How did they gestate the first 20 plus weeks?
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Old 06-20-2007, 10:38 PM
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Ah gotta a love these debates, first off Rasta you are absolutely correct on the health care issue! This is bullshit and it needs to be addressed sooner than later; however that has no bearing on the debate of whether or not one should be alowed to abort a child. I have to say that sachem you are wrong, the moment a child is conceived it is alive; no one has the right to end his or her life. I bet that you are against the death penalty as well am I right?
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Old 06-21-2007, 06:59 AM
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Ah gotta a love these debates, first off Rasta you are absolutely correct on the health care issue! This is bullshit and it needs to be addressed sooner than later; however that has no bearing on the debate of whether or not one should be alowed to abort a child. I have to say that sachem you are wrong, the moment a child is conceived it is alive; no one has the right to end his or her life. I bet that you are against the death penalty as well am I right?
You are right. I am against the death penalty. I am for a woman's right to choose.'Potential' life may begin at conception, however that 'potential' is dependent on the woman, therefore it is for her to decide.
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"You are right. I am against the death penalty. I am for a woman's right to choose.'Potential' life may begin at conception, however that 'potential' is dependent on the woman, therefore it is for her to decide."

So ... biological functionality is relative to one's political and moral perspective? Once a human egg is fertilized by a human sperm, it begins to take in nutrients and grow under its own power, with its own genetic code. It is not constructed from without, but grows from within. At that point, there is nothing "potential" about it ... it is a living human entity that is NOT a part of a woman's body.
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