Thread: "Forced Abortions"

This is inspired by wolf22's "forced abortion" BS.

Here is an analogy:

Suppose I sign a contract to buy a house. I didn't have to buy that house, or any house at all. My "choice" point was when I signed. Now, what if I said later "I changed my mind, I want to back out". The seller could sue me. Then what if I complained "I'm being forced to buy a house - nobody should be forced to buy a house! I have freedom of choice!" Nobody would accept my complaint - they'd say the time for your "choice" has come and gone - when you signed the contract.

Likewise, the REAL "choice" of a woman re pregnancy is when she decides to have sex. (This is putting aside for the moment pregnancies from rape, which are 1% of abortions according to the pro-abortion Guttmacher Institute.) When she has sex, she risks pregnancy. If she gets pregnant, her "choice" has already come and gone. She now has a CONTRACT (or at least analogously that's how it should be viewed) with the fetus. Nobody tied her to a table and inseminated her - THAT would be "forced pregnancy". What a woman who is either voluntarily or negligently pregnant REALLY wants to do is RENEGE on the consequences of the choice she has ALREADY made, much the same as if I wanted to back out on my purchase contract.

The "forced pregnancy" mantra is BS.

What a pantload!

Consenting to sex doesn't mean anyone consented to pregnancy.

Originally Posted by Towelie

What a pantload!

Consenting to sex doesn't mean anyone consented to pregnancy.

What do you think sex was originally designed for you dope?!?!?

Originally Posted by Towelie

Consenting to sex doesn't mean anyone consented to pregnancy.

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And it's only june ..............

She can choose to take the pill
She can choose to make him ware a rubber
She can choose an IUD
She can choose to get cut tied and burned
She can choose to keep her legs crossed
She can tell a man she will not have sex with him unless he gets a vasectomy

That is plenty of choices........

Women should have the right to do with their body what ever the hell they want until it affects anothers body.

If a woman choices not to choose and she just gets laid and low and behold she gets pregnant....

Why is it hard to understand that now other peoples rights are involved.

The babies right to exist and have a life....

The fathersright to have and love his child....

The femenist and liberal women are the most self centered people I have ever heard. It is always all about "THEM".

It is just common sense that if ya don't take the precausion not to get pregnant, that you have passed up your chance to avoide pregnancy and at this point one has to say to themselves that one persons right to live for 70 or 80 years has to outweight anothers rights of 9 months.

Ya know I think that these femenists are really just a bunch of cowards.....

All these other women who have babies everyday and they are just to afraid of the pain that comes with childbareing.

These femenists are not half the women that the normal women who love their children are.

Viking

Originally Posted by Rick

Not sure what's so funny. Do people who drive too fast consent to being in a car accident? Do smokers consent to lung cancer? Pregnancy is something that can happen. Sometimes people make mistakes. That doesn't mean they should be forced to gestate and give birth against their will. Pregnancy is voluntary in this country.

Perhaps you should move to Iran?

Originally Posted by Towelie

Not sure what's so funny. Do people who drive too fast consent to being in a car accident? Do smokers consent to lung cancer? Pregnancy is something that can happen. Sometimes people make mistakes. That doesn't mean they should be forced to gestate and give birth against their will. Pregnancy is voluntary in this country.

Perhaps you should move to Iran?

Towelie, your response is an absolutely perfect example of the problem in this country, which abortion is only part of....

YES smokers consent to lung cancer. YES people who drive recklessly consent to being injured in a car accident. YES women who engage in sexual activity consent to pregnancy.

In every single one of these cases, these people knew the POTENTIAL CONSEQUENCES of their actions. There is no surprise to the fact that smoking can cause lung cancer, driving recklessly leads to more accidents, and sex leads to pregnancy in many cases. The thing is that people no longer want to take RESPONSIBILITY for their actions anymore. They want a way to wipe out the consequences of their poor choices and thereby escape responsibility.

That lack of responsibility/consequences is one of the major things destroying our society at this point in time.

Originally Posted by JFC

What do you think sex was originally designed for you dope?!?!?

Sexual gratification, of course.

Originally Posted by Towelie

Not sure what's so funny. Do people who drive too fast consent to being in a car accident? Do smokers consent to lung cancer? Pregnancy is something that can happen. Sometimes people make mistakes. That doesn't mean they should be forced to gestate and give birth against their will. Pregnancy is voluntary in this country.

Perhaps you should move to Iran?

HA!HA! Great suggestion! And I highly recommend that as well!
Don't pay any attention to Rick, Towelie. He can't get laid, so that's why he's taking out his frustration over it around here. Shhh..don't tell anybody though. He likes to think that no one notices.

Originally Posted by Towelie

Do smokers consent to lung cancer?

Let's take that one.

First, the word is RISK, not "consent". Skip the strawmen, OK?

Back in the 1600s Here's what King James had to say about smoking: "Smoking is a custom loathesome to the eye, hateful to the nose, harmful to the brain, dangerous to the lungs." Around 1900, US doctors began to notice that it was almost always smokers who got cancer, and warned their patients not to indulge in it. In 1964, the US Surgeon General warned everyone that smoking causes cancer. In spite of centuries-long warnings about smoking, ten years ago a bunch of people started suing the tobacco companies because they got cancer. I would normally stop here, but since I'm sure you have to have the analogy spelled out for you, here it is: Those smokers, unless they were retarded AND deaf AND blind, were well warned about the risks of smoking - they KNEW the possible undesirable consequences, and when those consequences were realized, they made other people pay for their risky actions. Same with a woman who gets an abortion.