And just what justifies "ripping" a separate individual away from its life support.....your "personal" choice alone? With logic like that one could just go "rip" a renter from under the roof of some housing unit that one owns. But indeed, there are common laws that consider such as "illegal", its only the femi-nazi that declares the right to take a separate living creature and put it to death, simply based upon her "feminine rights" of possession...go figure. Evil is Evil. BD

Bluedog,

Not a supporter of women's rights? No shock there. You are nothing more than a sexist ignorant pig. Go suck something.

If the child is an individual, rip it from the mother and see how far it gets. Not far, not anywhere actually. The fetus depends on the woman for life support, when the proverbial plug is pulled, it dies..... Case settled.... Not only is it not seperate, it's fucking dependant.

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Who would Jesus Bomb?

Of coarse it hurts. Your being screwed by an elephant.

Barak Obama - Half honkey - all donkey

"It doesn't matter who votes, it matters who counts the votes"- Joseph Stalin

Rip a heart lung machine away from a heart transplant patient during the operation and see how long they live without it. Are you arguing that the patient is "part" of the machine?

The fact is that both the patient, and the child are dependent, not part of and that, my dear, is all the difference. Dependence is not a valid reason to kill. Your argument relies on a falsehood so it fails.

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"It's not alive, It's not alive, It's not alive. Because I said it isnt', there's your proof jerk." ...lexi

Again, you aren't very good at this. Children don't vote, and yet, there are all manner of laws on the books that protect and benefit children. Since you admit that simply having a lawmaker work for you on your behalf is enough to preclude one from being a third class human being, then the fact that there are lawmakers working for the unborn nullifies your entire foolish argument.

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"It's not alive, It's not alive, It's not alive. Because I said it isnt', there's your proof jerk." ...lexi

So are you arguing that dependence is a valid reason for one human being to kill another? Is that really your argument or a hypocritical excuse that only applies to this particular issue?

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"It's not alive, It's not alive, It's not alive. Because I said it isnt', there's your proof jerk." ...lexi

Once that "child" leaves the "magical" entrance/exit of all the important female vagina.....and you leave that child alone and see how long it endures, but now they consider it murder. Just what mentally deficient "switch" does one flip that defines murder with a few inches of female flesh measuring the difference? As I said, pathological EVIL...is the worst kind of EVIL, for there is nothing to be gained with the exception of the "forced will" of one life form upon another. Again, it seems that "I" am the defender of rights, as I consider "everyones" right to life, and you consider only your professed "personal" right of declaring a living being as a piece of property, I suppose that it will once again take an amendment for this portion of our population to be brought into the modern age of "humanity", as was those slaves of the 19th century. HUMAN RIGHTS MY ASS, the only rights you are interested in are those that benefit your personal endeavors. BD

NO, NO,, NO, you can't bring other points of life support into the argument... remember? By your own words it's not a valid argument.

Once the child leave the Va-j-j it's a living individual... we are talking about a fetus. I know it's hard, but please stay focused.

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Who would Jesus Bomb?

Of coarse it hurts. Your being screwed by an elephant.

Barak Obama - Half honkey - all donkey

"It doesn't matter who votes, it matters who counts the votes"- Joseph Stalin

The fetus is seperate right pale, why then would it need it's life support? Oh right - cause it's not seperate, you retard.

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Who would Jesus Bomb?

Of coarse it hurts. Your being screwed by an elephant.

Barak Obama - Half honkey - all donkey

"It doesn't matter who votes, it matters who counts the votes"- Joseph Stalin

No...you are using the English language in a "semantical" fashion in an attempt to justify taking the life of a small innocent child whose only crime is one of inconvenience, with no crime whatsoever being leveled against it. All because people such as yourself have bitched and whined enough to twist the legal system into accepting your "emotional" imagined rights as paramount to even life. I FEEL SORRY FOR INDIVIDUALS such as yourself, that can not focus beyond their own selfish whims of life. Perhaps your entrance into eternity will be aborted as well, as you have chosen your own destiny, enjoy the fruits of your labor, for this it. Killing a "fetus" does not sound no where near as bad as killing a living gestating human baby...does it? You, like the Nazi's have attempted to "dehumanize" the living to justify your control over such. You can not deny that the child is alive, so you must deny that it is HUMAN....go figure. BD

Not at all. How long does a child exist for and how long is a fetus around for? A child is in existence for over 20 times longer, there are many more of them and they are very vocal. When was the last time you heard of a fetus getting hit by a car? Fetuses are invisable, have no voice and therefore only a very small activist organisation to speak for them.