Post abortion syndrome...

wolf_22 · #11 (**permalink**) 05-05-2008, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by oceanbreeze

I would like a link for the research that women don't regret their choices.
All my friends who have had abortions regret that decision now.
I still think about the pregnancies that I lost and that was over 15 years ago.

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Originally Posted by PaleRider

Women heal emotionally, mentally and physically, and do not later regret thier choice, but yet, women who have had abortions represent group with the fastest growing suicide rate.

I would like to see you square those two things.

Abortion News | Most Women Do Not Feel Distress, Regret After Undergoing Abortion, Study Says - Kaisernetwork.org

not according to research dear.

and most women who suffer after abortion fall under three groups:
1-those pressured to abort when they never wanted to
2-those didn't recieve proper counseling before hand
3-those who later begin to think their fetus was alive and human

ricechickie · #12 (**permalink**) 05-05-2008, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Realist1

As I've said before Wolf... kill your unborn. I've not a problem with that. It's for the best of all of Humanity as far as I'm concerned.

Idiocy would start declining,,,, Humans killing their own Blood Line would decline...And I'd never have to deal with a "Human" giving me excuses on why they'd kill their own,,,ever again.

Go for it.

You think being pro-choice is passed through the genes like eye color?

PaleRider · #13 (**permalink**) 05-05-2008, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by wolf_22

Abortion News | Most Women Do Not Feel Distress, Regret After Undergoing Abortion, Study Says - Kaisernetwork.org

not according to research dear.

and most women who suffer after abortion fall under three groups:
1-those pressured to abort when they never wanted to
2-those didn't recieve proper counseling before hand
3-those who later begin to think their fetus was alive and human

Maybe you shoud research your sources a bit better dear. The kaiser family foundation is a very large and very vocal pro choice organization and the research they referenced, that you present as proof of your position was done in sweeden and included a whopping 58 women.

The research characterized 20% of the women as having "severe emotional distress".

Maybe you shoud stick to what is going on in the US instead of referencing a study of 58 women in sweeden 20% of which experienced severe emotional distress. The fact is that in the US, women who have had abortions are the fastest growing group of suicides. Medical research, and the present state of medical knowledge has made it very difficult for a woman to pretend to herself that she hasn't actually killed a living human being.

wolf_22 · #14 (**permalink**) 05-05-2008, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by PaleRider

Maybe you shoud research your sources a bit better dear. The kaiser family foundation is a very large and very vocal pro choice organization and the research they referenced, that you present as proof of your position was done in sweeden and included a whopping 58 women.

The research characterized 20% of the women as having "severe emotional distress".

Maybe you shoud stick to what is going on in the US instead of referencing a study of 58 women in sweeden 20% of which experienced severe emotional distress. The fact is that in the US, women who have had abortions are the fastest growing group of suicides. Medical research, and the present state of medical knowledge has made it very difficult for a woman to pretend to herself that she hasn't actually killed a living human being.

show me

and she didn't kill a living human being. perhaps its people like you who cause these suicides

Realist1 · #15 (**permalink**) 05-06-2008, 04:46 AM

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Originally Posted by ricechickie

You think being pro-choice is passed through the genes like eye color?

No. I think that "people" contemplating killing their own future off-spring should do it. It'd be an act of "Kindness" for the Child,,,considering the alternative of be raised by someone whose first thought was to kill it.

PaleRider · #16 (**permalink**) 05-06-2008, 04:47 AM

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Originally Posted by wolf_22

show me

Follow your own link, it is right there. You didn't even bother to see what the study was about, who did it, the methodology, or the results did you? You just grabbed a statement by a pro choice group and posted it as if it were the truth.

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Originally Posted by smart makes a comeback

and she didn't kill a living human being. perhaps its people like you who cause these suicides

Of course she did. I have been asking you for months for some credible evidence that unborns at any stage are not human beings. You have not been able to do it. Unfortunately for you, your opinion doesn't represent credible evidence.

Use your brain wolf. It isn't people like me who cause suicides. It is people like you. People who go on and on about how unborns aren't human beings, about how they are just insignifigant clumps of cells, about how abortion is the right choice for some people. So women who are looking for something listen to you and act on your advice in the light of day. Then night comes and they know inside that it was all a lie. They know that they have killed their child for no better reason than convenience and they know that they are going to have to live with it for the rest of their lives.

People like me aren't lying to anyone wolf. I don't need to lie because the facts support my side of the argument. People who act on lies and only learn after the fact that they have indeed been lied to are the ones who suffer emotional consequences. People who walk into a situation with their eyes wide open and act knowing the facts rarely suffer residual emotional distress. It is people like you who are to blame wolf. You lie and smile and tell them that it is for the best but in the night, when you aren't around to perpetuate the lie, they know the truth and it tears them apart.

ricechickie · #17 (**permalink**) 05-06-2008, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Realist1

No. I think that "people" contemplating killing their own future off-spring should do it. It'd be an act of "Kindness" for the Child,,,considering the alternative of be raised by someone whose first thought was to kill it.

Excellent pro-choice argument. If a woman doesn't experience a pregnancy with joyous expectation, and their first reaction is dread, then they should have the right to not carry that pregnancy.

Realist1 · #18 (**permalink**) 05-06-2008, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ricechickie

Excellent pro-choice argument. If a woman doesn't experience a pregnancy with joyous expectation, and their first reaction is dread, then they should have the right to not carry that pregnancy.

And I'd recommend they have their "tubes" cut too...

We don't want them to ever have to bear that fear again.