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Originally Posted by Dmeth
Yeah your right... the mother should not take any of the fathers fellings or oppinions into concideration. *rolls-eyes*
First of all, I think if a father is spiteful of the mother he would be far more likely to not want her to have the child and if you dont believe that watch maury lol.depends. what if he was with a girl who was in college on a sport's scholarship. a great way to mess up her life is get her scholarship revoked due to her pregnancy, which could get her out of school. and forget it if she ever wanted to go pro after that.
that seems like an ingenius way to get back at someone.
secondly, the mother doesnt necessarily have to care for the child for 18 years.. there are plenty of options. Adoption being one of many. There are far more actions you can take before you make the choice to terminate.
Your solution to not being responsible shouldnt be to make another irresponsible decision. All im saying is that if one of the two parents is willing to keep the child, the mothers pain of childbirth doesnt compare to the murder of a fetus and it's chance to live should be taken.
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I didn't say she shouldn't take his feelings into account. but at the end of the day its a woman's issue and her choice. I've even had guy friends who were a little half/half on the abortion issue agree with that.
sadly it will be her who deals with the consequences and the negative aspects of both pregnancy and parenting. not him.
adoption is an option. but there are draw backs.
1- the pregnancy (both the physical issues and having to stop work or school and depending on the job/class/ect that can set a person back a lot. think about a competative industry, women who have babies can get their careers set back a few years sometimes from that)
2- labor (pain and permanent damage to the body)
3- not all babies are adopted. adoption isn't some utopian option. babies who aren't white are less likely to be adopted. and sometimes gender can also be a factor. hopefully we don't have to talk about the issues of foster care, which is practicly a broken system at this point.
and if he wants adoption- doesn't want to raise the child- perhaps he shouldn't be so against abortion. he's not going to actual parent either way.
I said if abortion is the best option it is responcible to have one. it depends on the situation.
and you have no idea what pregnancy or labor feels like. you never will.
once again a fetus can't feel for at least the first 14 weeks and some estimate it closer to 24 weeks.
sometimes (not always) abortion is an act of mercy. bringing a child into the world who will suffer is a very cruel thing to do. kids don't ask to be born and they have to suffer or deal with what ever they have and its not fair.
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Originally Posted by Dmeth
Think what you like I guess but the mother made the choice to put herself in a situation where she became pregnant and should be encouraged to take responsibility for her mistake instead of making somthing else suffer for it.
To be honest, I think that if a mother has multiple abortions that means she isn't learning any lesson or just doesn't care about who she hurts so she should have to go to prison. There should be some kind of limit or some point where it becomes wrong.
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karma works with that issue- and not just in the spiritual sense, but that could be relevent as well.
abortion does have physical consequences, all medical procedures do. even the safest ones have side effects. its a fact of life.
the more abortions = more risk, more side effects,
I don't care if its abortion, plastic surgery, deep ear cleaning, colon cleansing, or any other eletive procedure- if you keep doing it too often, you will most likely end up with a physical issue down the road.
(I'm not saying the above mentioned aren't at times medically nessacary. I'm only refering to situation where its an elective option)
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