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05-26-2008, 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Inelpaso
Right to choose. Making it illegal doesn't stop abortions, just make it illegal and wealthy people will go overseas for a "legal" abortion and others will use pills and others will go back to the placenta hook (coathanger).
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true.
its an attack on poor women. people who already can barely afford birth control.
for Roe's 35th anniversary they had a bunch of women blogging about reproductive rights. there was at least one blog (I didn't read many of them) with the personal story of a more affluent women who got a "D&C" -according to her medical chart- when she was pregnant. she had a safe illegal abortion, covered by insurance, performed by her primary doctor.
no poor woman could get that.
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05-26-2008, 02:46 PM
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Think about it, if the woman wasn't ready for a child then why have sex, its her fault for either having unprotected sex or just having sex. Be responsible for your actions.
The child that was aborted could have cured cancer, cured aids, been president etc etc... think of what your killing. When the sperm hits the egg the baby is alive.
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05-26-2008, 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by frycat101
Think about it, if the woman wasn't ready for a child then why have sex, its her fault for either having unprotected sex or just having sex. Be responsible for your actions.
The child that was aborted could have cured cancer, cured aids, been president etc etc... think of what your killing. When the sperm hits the egg the baby is alive.
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if abortion is your best option, having an abortion is responsible.
that child also could have been the next hitler, a serial killer, a professional theif, ect
not everyone defines life in the same way.
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05-26-2008, 07:20 PM
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not everyone defines life in the same way.
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Right. There are those who accept the scientific fact, and then there are the flat earthers who beleive that just because they say a thing that somehow it becomes true even when there are mountains of credible science that prove that they are just lying to themselves.
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05-26-2008, 09:08 PM
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I think abortion is a complicated issue. if my wife became pregnant, we feel like we couldnt deprive an unborn child the opportunity of life. On the other hand I do support other people having abortions for the following reasons.. 1) A woman who wants an abortion is going to terminate her pregnancy with or without the help of a trained medical profesional and I would rather my tax money not being used to pay for some whore's injuries who stabbed herself with a coat hanger 2) If she doesnt get the job done the way a doctor could a child could end up being born physically or mentaly handicapped. 3) I support people having abortions because they are most likely liberal and I don't think it should be legal for liberals to reproduce.. we don't need any more of them.
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05-26-2008, 09:41 PM
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This is will always be a messy issue. I support a womans right to choose, but the male portion of the equation should have some say in it also.
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05-26-2008, 10:02 PM
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I agree fully. I think that an abortion should have to be agreed upon by both the mother and the father and not just the mother...
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05-26-2008, 10:18 PM
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I agree fully. I think that an abortion should have to be agreed upon by both the mother and the father and not just the mother...
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is he going to carry it?
go through labor?
be the one who will most likely be stuck caring for a baby/child for 18 years?
and what is to stop a guy from getting mad at girl and forcing her to keep the pregnancy just to spite her?
part of reproductive rights is stopping a woman's body from being a baby-making machine owned by anyone beside herself. rather its forcing women to have children or forcing women to not reproduce (abortion or sterilization).
if you are a male and worry about this you do have options:
1- birth control or get snipped
2- don't sleep with a girl who would have an abortion
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05-26-2008, 10:22 PM
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Quote:
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is he going to carry it?
go through labor?
be the one who will most likely be stuck caring for a baby/child for 18 years?
and what is to stop a guy from getting mad at girl and forcing her to keep the pregnancy just to spite her?
part of reproductive rights is stopping a woman's body from being a baby-making machine owned by anyone beside herself. rather its forcing women to have children or forcing women to not reproduce (abortion or sterilization).
if you are a male and worry about this you do have options:
1- birth control or get snipped
2- don't sleep with a girl who would have an abortion
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I think that abortion can be seen as a control issue, but even though I will not carry the child, as a father I should have a say
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05-26-2008, 10:30 PM
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I think that abortion can be seen as a control issue, but even though I will not carry the child, as a father I should have a say
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I do feel for guys in this area. but I think because of biological differences men might just be getting the short-end of the stick in a way.
women aren't in a position to tell men what to do with their bodies and their reproductive organs.
men shouldn't be able to do so to women and men aren't in the position to carry a fetus.
I'd say the best way to handle these matters is to be careful who you sleep with.
part of being a father or mother is knowing the other parent. don't sleep with someone who isn't on the same page as you. don't get them pregnant and you'll have no issues.
I think thats fairly reasonable.
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