That's great, whatever, but it's not the point of the argument. Choosing what goes into your uterus and destroying something that is already there are two vastly different things.

It is essential to continue throwing up the smoke screen. If they ever admit that they are actually advocating killing living human beings, then most of the pro choice support would evaporate nearly overnight.

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"As far as your logical fallicy shit - shove it. I am a woman."...naturemomma

That is because it is an opinion thread, look at the top. Besides no one can be convinced to be moraly responsable especialy some of the far left on this thread. They will argue ya down to the floor and nothing else matters except them and what they have a right to do. Even if it is at the expense of another.

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Your argument is fallacious. It begs the question and assumes that unborns, at any stage of development are not living human beings entitled to the same rights as everyone else.

Following your logic, people who lived 150 years ago who were against slavery should have contented themselves with painting a sign on their wagon that said:

If you don't like slavery, don't own one.

Would that have been your attitude towards slavery? That the decision to own or not own another human being should be left to those who might or might not buy another human being?

If having a defect, or being in foster care is a valid reason for killing, why then do you not advocate killing those whom we know for sure are defective in some manner or are already living in foster care rather than those who "might" end up in those situations.

Your argument is just chock full of fallacy, isn't it?

What other situations do you favor killing a child for the crime of his or her parents?

But following your logic, slavery was fine and up to the individual who might or might not have bought a slave. Your argument assumes that the child is the rapist or that the child is not half the woman's. Can you make a rational argument for killing one human being for the crimes of another?

That has to be one of the silliest analogies put foreward yet. Would you like to try again?

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"It's not alive, It's not alive, It's not alive. Because I said it isnt', there's your proof jerk." ...lexi

"As far as your logical fallicy shit - shove it. I am a woman."...naturemomma

Not many people are willing to step up and admit that they were wrong and have changed their minds. I get personal messages from time to time from people who never really entered the debate stating that they have gotten off the fence and are taking a pro life stance.

I was pro choice at one time and encountered an argument that I simply couldn't defeat. I spent more time than I care to admit in university libraries looking for credible material with which to defeat my opponent. The more I learned, the more evident it became that I was not going to win. I was left with two options. Hold blindly to an argument that I knew was simply not true or be a thinking adult and modify my stance to reflect what I knew to be true.

Unfortunately, abortion is an emotional issue for most and they are simply not able to bring thier intellects to bear on the issue. As a result, they must deny the facts and erect a series of illusions in order to maintain their own support of the issue, much less convince anyone else.

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"It's not alive, It's not alive, It's not alive. Because I said it isnt', there's your proof jerk." ...lexi

"As far as your logical fallicy shit - shove it. I am a woman."...naturemomma

Exactly why they argue the ignorant point of when life starts. As if it is going to change the fact if they argue or deny it. See I have no problem if someone comes to me an says well hell yes I believe women have the right to kill there unborn if they choose. At least then we can debate the right on an adult level. Those who deny it is life because it will hurt their arguement well they piss me off because while they are being frigen idiots they are also insulting you. They actualy think they can get you to swallow that it ain't life or has no soul. WHO THE HELL CAN ACTUALY PROVE WHEN A HUMAN GETS A SOUL OR HELL IF AN ACTUAL SOUL EXIST. A SOUL IS MANS WAY OF EXPLAINING THAT WICH THEY CAN NOT NOR EVER WILL.

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I see no reason to argue with, or try and stop someone from killing its own...In my way of thinking,,,the "result" wouldn't have a very good chance growing up being raised by a creature whose first thought was ending its Life.

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I voted illegal based on morality
Because absolutely nothing ever gives anyone the right to take away human life its an immoral,disgusting,perverted thing to do...im sorry if this seems harsh to some of you because what ACTUALLY harsh is killing little children!

At least you are honest about your position, I give you credit for that. Your argument leaves a great deal to be desired, however, if logic is your goal. First, parentage is no assurance that the child will grow up to be a loser. There are plenty of great men and women who came from crappy families, or no family at all.

Secondly, there are a limited number of human beings who have the intellectual wattage to see deeply enough into the problems that we face to work out genuine solutions and unfortunately, those minds don't only get born into a certain sort of situation. History shows us that we only get a precious few minds that are in that top fraction of the 99th percentile every generation. The sorts of minds that might work out cold fusion, or a means to extract hydrogen from water without using more energy than you get. When you are aborting almost 30% of the pregnancies in this country alone, over the past 40 years, statistically, we have probably flushed at least a half a dozen children that would have had minds that would make the rest of us look like gibbering idiots.

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"It's not alive, It's not alive, It's not alive. Because I said it isnt', there's your proof jerk." ...lexi

"As far as your logical fallicy shit - shove it. I am a woman."...naturemomma

Nobody is talking about killing children. Get a grip.

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