>>>How many times am I going to have to say this, shit-fer-brains? Scientists are not anymore qualified to make determinations as to what is human and what is not human than my landscaper. You've lost this argument so many times to me, to others on this board, and in so many courtrooms that it just doesn't make sense to continue with your inanity.

Those where from medical textbooks used by and written by profesionals who are more than qualified to determine what "human" life is.

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I can alter my statement to children of conservative parents... but even some of these teens are conservative. they broke one rule (having sex) and now must break a personal conviction (abortion) to cover it up.
its sad.

I think some people who abort can later go on to be good parents- after they get to better stage in their lives.

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I'm so Obamafied

When other girls wanted to be a ballerina, I wanted to be a Vampire.

Hey, PaleRider! Looks like you missed one!

For or against abortion?

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Hehetchetu. Wa uyun tinkte!

Hey, by the definition Palerider and the like use, an easy billion women have had "abortions," 400 million at any point in time, and are actively engaging in a billion "abortions" a year. Most of the world call it birth control using a pill, an IUD, or an implant, or something similar.

Funny, but the quote that you use is a cut and paste from that website.

Are you the author of the website?

If not, you have been quoting without attribution, giving the impression that it is your work. That is known as plagiarism.

Tumors have human DNA. The same DNA as an embryo.

Tumors require feeding by attaching to human blood supply. Ebryos require feeding by attaching to human blood supply.

Tumors secrete an emzyne that promotes blood vessel growth to provide the blood to feed them. Enbryos secrete the same emzyne to promote blood vessel growth to provide the blood to feed them.

Tumors may or may not grow to kill its host. Ebryos may or may not grow to kill its host.

Tumors may go away without notice. Ebryos may go away without notice.

If the host doesn't want the tumor or embryo, what is the difference between the two?

Do you deny that you consider a billion women to be murderers?

Do you deny you believe that a billion murders are being committed each year?

Do you deny that you consider 400 million women at any point in time to be murdering their unborn?

Or do you consider murdering an human being by the pill, IUD, or implant to be socially acceptable?

Oh, right, you're going to side step the inconventient truth of the absurdity of your position by using terms like "you are stupid" and "you are just cutting and pasting" and "you are a flat earther" but the last thing you will do is admit that your view of things is one that is clearly not held by billions of people who think that birth control is a fantastic scientific advance, and what we need is more scientific advancement to make birth control far more convenient and safe and 100% effective, so no woman need face a crowd of protesters in front of a Planned Parenthood clinic.

So now you are skipping your typical crap and going directly to blatant lies. All of the texts I have provided have been standard texts used in medical universities around the world.

Human is a species just like every other species and its members are identified in the same manner as every other species.

And pardon me for saying but since your every argument has failed miserably, simply saying end of story only suggests that you have no credible argument so you are tucking your tail firmly between your legs and moving on.

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"It's not alive, It's not alive, It's not alive. Because I said it isnt', there's your proof jerk." ...lexi

"As far as your logical fallicy shit - shove it. I am a woman."...naturemomma

You can say it all you like and it matters not a whit. Can you prove it? Human is a species and its members are determined and classified in the same manner as with any other species. Human is the kind of creature you are and not a product of the degree to which you manifest your potential. I have been through that already on the philosophical concepts thread. Do feel free to drop by and have your ass handed to you there as well.

When a creature needs to be classified or identified, it is brought to science and not necromancers and gypsys because science where you will find the only people qualified to make the determination of what it is and what it isn't. Your mewling is pathetic. Why not simply admit that you can't back up your argument with anything credible and hang it up rather than continue to subject yourself to such humiliation.

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"It's not alive, It's not alive, It's not alive. Because I said it isnt', there's your proof jerk." ...lexi

"As far as your logical fallicy shit - shove it. I am a woman."...naturemomma