Ok, lets do this. Lets say, you have a nation of people like yourself, everyone of them would act the way you have just explained above. Do you think it possible for a nation to succeed when:
*They will not risk their life to help someone in need (There goes an army)
*Wont help someone who has wronged them in the past. (So much for any second chances, death penalty for each and every crime, or life in prison)

These are the points I make, people on their own without morals are selfish, greedy, mean, deceitful, and treacherous. However, morals make these people see who they are, where as normally, they look right through it as if it were the norm.

Lets look back a second, and think about each of those questions in refrence to you, and apply an analogy.

*You see a stranger, shot and bleeding on the street, do you help him?
You are now in the strangers position, and he in yours. How do you want him to react?

**An old enemy of yours needs a blood transfusion or he will die, will you give it to him?
You lie deteriorating on a bed, because your blood no longer carries enough oxygen through your system. He get the news from the doctor, he said no, you arn't worth vomiting for.

I cannot imagine what it would take for a person to wrong me in such a manner that I would not try to save his life at such a little expense of my own.

Tell me honestly how you would react to those situations, try as hard as you can to imagine them.

Also, if you will answer this question.

You are driving a car down the road, the worst storm imaginable is following close behind you, no more than 2-5 minutes. Three people are standing on the side of the road.

First, your best friend who has saved your life before.
Second, and old woman who has had a heart attack and needs to get to a hospital soon or she will die.
Third, the girl of your dreams.

You have room for only yourself and one other person, which one do you take?

thats called classical conditioning. you associate negative responses with particular stimuli. it isn't something magical. and you can classically condition anyone to think any way when they are a child. you can classically condition a mouse but it doesnt mean its moral.
Also, a lot of children, as was my argument, do not say no because they do not know that area is private. Seeing a molestation for a child is often going to start earlier than schooling, and that the parents will try and control the child's way of thinking to prevent he/she from seeing the moral implications.

Talk about a fallacy! First of all, just because some one has solidarity, as I explained, does not mean they have morality. Secondly, yes, a society thats fucked up like this would still be a society. Look at Las Vegas. No one there is going to save your life, and everyone is greedy and unforgiving.

Thats not true. Morality is inessential to being kind to other humans. You don't need a God to act nice, you can just do it of your own volition. Try it sometime, I do it quite regularly myself.

Well, I said I would help the stranger. I wouldn't expect anyone to ever help me, but it would be greatly appreciated.

sucks

whats an enemy then? See, I dont believe in Jesus or "turn the other cheek". I believe an enemy is an enemy, and for me to somehow come into control of his life, I'd have to act accordingly. but, i dont have any enemies, its not something i look to acquire, but when i do have them i take em seriously.

My best friend. Bros before hoes.

let me add, my best friend was my answer without the slightest hesitation. which brings back my point about solidarity. I'm not his friend out of an obligation towards morality. I'm his friend because we have forged a relationship over time and given meaning to the otherwise meaningless. this is the exact same choice almost all people would make given this chance.


side note, just an anecdote. When i am driving friends somewhere, i don't let them say shotgun to get the from seat. The rules, i tell them, are sophie's choice rules, my favorite friend gets the front, and then i let them work it out amongst themselves.

Sewe Thread title:

"Seattle Man Denied Liver Transplant for Using Marijuana" Theres where fuckers cease to be human

Now that's a good answer, the rest of this thread is just .

That is one of the problems I see with this forum, people don't refute, or provide rebutles. They just jump in, claim something is stupid, and thus feal more intelligent. Realise, if you don't contribute something that counters or clearifies a previous statement, you are useless and need not respond.

But thanks for you input lexi.

Hey Suburbanite, would you mind clarifying your worldview for us, are you basically a blank slate, social contract kinda guy? Thanks.

If you don't like the forum just leave, don't let the door hit your ass on the way out.

No, Im niether into Locke nor Russo. I'm an Ironist. Often confused with being a "post-modernist" I suppose, but I don't really know what post-modernist is or does. Essentially though, I'm into the philosophy of language.

i'm still waiting for YOUR rebuttal against my post regarding homosexuals being targets of violence and rape. This is the third time you've ignore the point.

that doesn't make it right.
sex always has an emotional nature to it. some people can seperate romance from it and have good control over their feelings. a child can never do this.

masturbation is not sex. masturbation happens between one person and themselves. any emotional feelings from that aren't harmful (unless fo course kids feel ashamed of doing something so natural)

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