It's rediculous, did she ever club anyone over the head, and cut their baby out of their stomach with a knife? NO, she provided a service - that's it. If she was a racist, then so be it - it doesn't matter now. What matters is that women of any nationality can recive services from PP - TODAY. Anything else is in the past and not relevant to the topic at hand. I just don't understand why it matters in today's society??!! Perhaps someone can enlighten me?

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Oh Please, don't be ignorant. She was a firm believer in eugenics. She was a firm believer in the general inferiority of people of color. She was a firm believer in limiting births for "undesirable" peoples. Using logic one can only come up with one idea, the woman was in favor of birth control for blacks as a means of reducinig the black population in general. Does that make her a racist? It certainly does in my book.

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She was also a firm believe that some of those "undesirables" were the poor white trash.

I would think pure racist intent would favor rising population rates of one race and declining rates of another.

That's not what I've seen about her. She was in favor of rich, educated, healthy people having more babies, and poor, uneducated, subnormally intelligent, and unhealthy people not having babies.

She had her biases, I don't deny that. I think her biases were consistent with the beliefs of many of her time.

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In 1926, in what she called "one of the weirdest experiences I had in lecturing," Sanger even gave a lecture on birth control to the women's auxiliary of the Ku Klux Klan in Silver Lake, New Jersey, a group she found so ignorant she had to use only "the most elementary terms, as though I were trying to make children understand."[5] Sanger's talk was well-received by the women's auxiliary of the Ku Klux Klan and as a result "a dozen invitations to similar groups were proffered."[5] In September 1930, she received at home the Nazi anthropologist Eugen Fischer.[6][7]

And she later had "issues" with what the Nazis were doing, but never publicly.

In the end there is nothing one can point to and say "See, she is a racist", but at the same time she should have understood what she was saying was naturally playing into the hands of hardcore racists, and when it was abused, she never got the point that such an idea would ALWAYS be abused.

I put her down as an idealist who never lets nasty reality get in the way of her ideals. Was she racist, certainly, but it was the northern genteel version, not the overt southern version, which as I pointed out before, is generally far more dangerous and damaging.

LOL, I read that too, but I thought you were one of those who dismissed Wiki as a source.

I found it telling that she basically called the KKK audience ignorant. Of course, you're correct that she was one of the more "genteel" racists. Where we disagree is that she should have known that others would abuse her ideas.

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Wiki is fine as a starting point, and it really depends on the links supporting it. If the references are fine I generally take them.

As for her knowing, yes she should have. If she didn't have preconceived ideas of what was "desirable" and "undesirable" it is a natural question to ask. However, since she already knew, then it never dawned on her to ask the question.