You are such a senile old man I almost feel sorry for you... almost....

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"its potential, its potential, its potential because I said so, there's your proof" --- Palerider

Don't feel sorry for me. I am capable of explaining, in detail, any point that I make and I don't introduce concepts that I am unable to discuss at length. Your pity is misdirected. Find the nearest mirror, face it, and pity the one you see there.

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"It's not alive, It's not alive, It's not alive. Because I said it isnt', there's your proof jerk." ...lexi

"As far as your logical fallicy shit - shove it. I am a woman."...naturemomma

you love proving your stupidity, it isnt enough to let that opinion come and find you, you actually search it out. this topic is WAY out of your league retard.

My stupidity, you didn't answer the question either dude. No, it's not out of my league but it certainly is out of yours...

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"its potential, its potential, its potential because I said so, there's your proof" --- Palerider

right.... thats why you ripped off my entire thread with pale and came up with this retarded shit.... because I'M the one out of my element. Loser.

?????? I started my own thread you brainless little turd. This is it...

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"its potential, its potential, its potential because I said so, there's your proof" --- Palerider

riiiiight. let me help you out here anyways


Pale, you brought up my comment about Black not being black. Lets bring it up again. We know what you think, and it is a very pragmatic approach. However, you're missing the point about context. Context is inescapable. You're subject to multiple contexts constantly. For example, you couldn't escape the human condition. All things being within a context can be explained better-- a context is a "truth" game, a system within which truths can be deciphered relative to the context. So, say, within the context of one group of friends sports and beer are what "fun" means, but with another group of friends fun is maybe picking up on women. "Fun", conceptually, doesn't exist in any form but the ones within the context. Meaning, there is no universal truth to "fun", no ultimate intrinsic form of a "fun". Instead, there is only a select group of funs within a context. Likewise, there is no "Black" somewhere out there in some world of pure forms. No, instead, there are only idiosyncratic instances of black. If, say, black MEANT something different to you, and you were only aware of that one meaning, meaning you can't even concieve of the modern American's understanding of "black", how is there ever any ultimate black. Describe black's ultimate truth, tell me what it ALWAYS means to EVERYONE? Tell me what it means to aliens, to fish, to mexicans, to black people.
You're saying something about Black is always constant, WHAT is it?

Let me predict you default answer:
black is the absorption of all colors in the visible spectrum. great scientific explanation, but for thousands of years we didn't have the slightest idea that this was the case, and yet Black still went on, and in a thousand years we might see an entirely different unpredictable context for it (as history has shown). Science, like all other metaphors, is subject to its own context, in this case empiricism, which is one of man's best tools, but is certainly not a "Truth" out of its own context.

Disagree. There can be an external, non contextual definition of "black". Now yes, the 5 letters that in the english language form the word "black" are contextual, but the thing to which those letters are defining exists outside of any individual or even collective awareness.

All colors have a specific wave length that can be measured (or no wave length). Yes the scale, measuring device, and the person interpreting the device can all have differing "definitions" so to speak, but the underlying physical reality is still there.

Does it though?
I mean, you have to see something else besides context. Its contingency. The idea that you're espousing has an origin. Its Plato. He came up with the idea that there is a "reality" which we "percieve". But this is a very antiquated outlook. Its a natural one because the way you formulate a sentence is based on this false subject/object dichotomy. In our grammar, all sentences must have both a subject and an object. Likewise, so does your concept of reality. Coincidence? Hardly. Its natural to describe the world entirely within the context of your own language. One can not, clearly, think outside of one's own language, can they?

So what are you appealing to? What "truth" is there that you think you can "percieve" outside of the context of your own language?

That's the first time I've read that comment of yours. Like I told the Mighty One, I only read a few lines of one your comments in that discussion you had with him. After getting your slimy PM I had no interest in reading your comments dude.. Thought I'd read this one just to see what you're slinging now.

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"its potential, its potential, its potential because I said so, there's your proof" --- Palerider