Well, pale, like I said. I don't know when a human fetus becomes a human being...No, human newborns can't survive on their own, but some species of newborn can.

Laughs! I just read this!


Too funny! A small collection of cells is the same thing as a being that can use a keyboard to post on the internet?

That's a REAL stretch pal.

When the term reality is mentioned, many questions arise regarding what reality is and what is real originate also. Unfortunately, many of these questions are yet to be answered since determining reality and what is real are left to each individual’s imagination - for one to determine reality as he or she sees fit.

A dictionary may provide a definition for the word reality, but things that constitute reality may never be entirely defined because it is one of those things that is almost completely based on an individual’s perception and interpretation. A dictionary may also provide a definition for the word perception and the word interpretation, but many individuals perceive and interpret many things very differently.

With the vast variation of people, thoughts, and beliefs in our world, how should society determine the boundaries of reality? On the other hand, is it even possible to set specific limits when considering reality?

IMO, no it isn't possible to set specific limits when considering what reality is to each individual.

An infant certainly can't use a keyboard to post on the internet and is most definately a smaller collection of cells than you. Do you deny that infants are human beings? Do you really believe that being immature makes you a different sort of creature than you will be when you reach maturity?

Gestation is a time of growth. Metamorphosis is change. Are you suggesting that humans metamorphose into something that they weren't at some point in our life span?

It seems cranky, that the story you tell yourself breaks down at every level. Again. Of what use is a story if it breaks down when held up to reality?

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"As far as your logical fallicy shit - shove it. I am a woman."...naturemomma

And the fact that some species newborns can survive on their own proves exactly what with regard to what they were before they were born? This story you tell yourself seems to be drifting further and further away from reality all the time.

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"It's not alive, It's not alive, It's not alive. Because I said it isnt', there's your proof jerk." ...lexi

"As far as your logical fallicy shit - shove it. I am a woman."...naturemomma

"reality and what is real are left to each individual’s imagination - for one to determine reality as he or she sees fit."


What part of English don't you understand Pale?

You clearly aren't understanding whatever book you are plagiarizing. You can not fabricate a reality in which the sun actually changes into something other than what it is. It is going to remain the same no matter what sort of stories you tell yourself about it. Do you believe that during the time of Kufu or Mentuhotep that the sun actually was a god on a golden chariot that was eternally chased around the world by his sister? The fact that whole societies and generation upon generation upon generation believed that the sun was a god on a chariot didn't change the sun in even the smallest degree from what it actually was. It is a yellow dwarf star now and it was then. No amount of belief is going to change that.

By the same token. The offspring of two human beings is a human being. It can be nothing else. You can tell yourself any number of stories, you can convince any number of people, and you can even get societal acceptance based on the stories that you tell but like the sun, no amount of belief can change the reality that the offspring of two human beings is a human being at any stage of his or her life.

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"It's not alive, It's not alive, It's not alive. Because I said it isnt', there's your proof jerk." ...lexi

"As far as your logical fallicy shit - shove it. I am a woman."...naturemomma

And you Palerider are clearly NOT understanding what this thread is all about.
You may be good at defining life in terms of molecules but with reality your just no good at all.

When you can change lead into gold by changing reality let me know. Until then, you are doing nothing more and nothing less than buying into the latest two bit new age religion. "YCYOR" (you create your own reality) is nothing more than a new age religion. You were aware of that weren't you? Do a bit of research before you jump on that bandwagon. It can be, like most new age religions, quite destructive to those who believe.

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"It's not alive, It's not alive, It's not alive. Because I said it isnt', there's your proof jerk." ...lexi

"As far as your logical fallicy shit - shove it. I am a woman."...naturemomma

I understand perfectly. You are enamored with suburbanites new age religion and you are getting involved in something that you know nothing about based on the packaging that suburbanite wraped it in.

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"It's not alive, It's not alive, It's not alive. Because I said it isnt', there's your proof jerk." ...lexi

"As far as your logical fallicy shit - shove it. I am a woman."...naturemomma

You're still not getting it are ya?? In conclusion I must assume that Palerider has no reality at all in his everyday life.. That's sad..