Reality is not what is real ( that is what the word real is for). It is the individuals preception of what is real. EG: A person on acid has their reality altered, but, it is still there reality.

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Absolutely, you hit that one right on..

Whoa......We agreed, don't tell anyone. It would ruin our reputations

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I'll drink to that....

Different experiences but the same reality. Experience and reality are not the same thing. We can experience reality in any number of ways but reality is what it is.

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"It's not alive, It's not alive, It's not alive. Because I said it isnt', there's your proof jerk." ...lexi

"As far as your logical fallicy shit - shove it. I am a woman."...naturemomma

But because society agreed that the victim was less than human does not actually make the victim less than human. The victim is what the victim is and no amount of storytelling on the part of society can change the physical nature of the victim. No one can make you less than a human being and it doesn't matter how many or how few choose to believe that you are something other than human.

They can certainly take the attituded that it was OK to kill you, but that doesn't change what you are. And we never decided that terrorists were less than human, we decided that they were dangerous humans who need to be killed.

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"It's not alive, It's not alive, It's not alive. Because I said it isnt', there's your proof jerk." ...lexi

"As far as your logical fallicy shit - shove it. I am a woman."...naturemomma

No. A person with acid on their hand experiences the reality of having acid on thier hand. They can not alter their reality to change the fact that acid is on their hand and they can not alter their reality to change what is on their hand from acid to something else.

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"It's not alive, It's not alive, It's not alive. Because I said it isnt', there's your proof jerk." ...lexi

"As far as your logical fallicy shit - shove it. I am a woman."...naturemomma

Not acid like hydracloric, acid like LSD. Not on hand ( well you'd have to have some on hand I suppose) Effecting the mind.....drugs....haluc..halus....yeah drugs.

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Drugs alter your perception of reality, but not reality itself. There seem to be a large number of people here who actually believe that perception and reality are one in the same.

The origin of this whole discussion arose from lexi arguing that because she doesn't believe that unborns are living human beings that somehow they physically change from human beings into something else that is not a human being.

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"It's not alive, It's not alive, It's not alive. Because I said it isnt', there's your proof jerk." ...lexi

"As far as your logical fallicy shit - shove it. I am a woman."...naturemomma

Ok then I have the perfect solution for both sides ( everyone will hate this)

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