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Old 04-01-2008, 09:28 PM
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Default Does the fetus have the right to live by constitution?

To answer this question, you need to know wether the fetus is alive and human.

Not whether some person considers it alive.

But whether it is alive, by definition. Since a fetus has cells and DNA, does breath, uses energy, and every other thing that makes it definably alive does exist in a fetus.

Now is a fetus Human?

A fetus has Human DNA, making it Human.

Therefor since a fetus is alive and human, it does have the right to live by our constitution.
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Old 04-01-2008, 10:31 PM
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To answer this question, you need to know wether the fetus is alive and human.

Not whether some person considers it alive.

But whether it is alive, by definition. Since a fetus has cells and DNA, does breath, uses energy, and every other thing that makes it definably alive does exist in a fetus.

Now is a fetus Human?

A fetus has Human DNA, making it Human.

Therefor since a fetus is alive and human, it does have the right to live by our constitution.
As long as the fetus is in a womb, the Constitutional rights belong to the woman with the womb.
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Old 04-01-2008, 10:53 PM
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It's still it's own separate being

It's completely made up that the fetus is part of the woman.
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Old 04-01-2008, 10:56 PM
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It's still it's own separate being

It's completely made up that the fetus is part of the woman.
Right. She just carries it for nine months and gives birth for fun. It really isn't part of her and doesn't need her to grow.
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Old 04-02-2008, 12:09 AM
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So what if the fetus needs here to grow? Does that make it not a separate being?
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To be part of her it has to be the same being as her, to say it is would be saying it;s not it's own being.
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So what if the fetus needs here to grow? Does that make it not a separate being?
Not when it is growing inside her and physically attached to her to receive oxygen and nourishment.
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Old 04-02-2008, 04:29 AM
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It's still it's own separate being

It's completely made up that the fetus is part of the woman.
and that can easily be fixed by removing the fetus from the womb. there is nothing in the law saying that someone else has to work to ensure life for another being.
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Old 04-02-2008, 04:34 AM
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As long as the fetus is in a womb, the Constitutional rights belong to the woman with the womb.
Are you arguing that it is not a human being? If you are saying that the woman determines what rights it has, then you are saying that she owns it and one human being may not own another human being in this country.

Your statement is a logical fallacy. It begs the question. Saying that the chid has what rights the mother says it has because she says what rights it has does not constitute an argument of any sort.
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Right. She just carries it for nine months and gives birth for fun. It really isn't part of her and doesn't need her to grow.
It is not part of her and simply suggesting that it is also does not constitute an argument. Your whole position, it seems, is based on logical fallacies. Feel free to validate your argument by providing some credible science that states that the child is part of its mother before it is born.

Neither being inside a thing, nor depending upon a thing makes you a part of a thing.
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