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Old 04-04-2008, 01:42 AM
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a fetus is not a baby and it can't feel. it doesn't think.
those children do.

peach, I gotta say, its not kewl to post pictures like that without some warning. its better to link.
thats some stuff I'm firmly against (I'm a pacifist) and I don't want to see it. especially if its just there right when I start scrolling.

Keep telling yourself that sweetheart.....
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Old 04-04-2008, 01:54 AM
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a fetus is not a baby and it can't feel. it doesn't think.
those children do.

peach, I gotta say, its not kewl to post pictures like that without some warning. its better to link.
thats some stuff I'm firmly against (I'm a pacifist) and I don't want to see it. especially if its just there right when I start scrolling.

Sorry wolf , but every once in awhile you got to show these hypocrites what they are cheering on.
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Old 04-04-2008, 04:36 AM
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I disagree. sometimes things just aren't wrong in everyone's eyes. we have different views of right and wrong. there isn't a need to feel guilty about something you don't view to be wrong.
So a sociopath who kills indescriminately because he or she genuinely doesn't believe that the people he or she is killing really doesn't need to feel guilty? You have already admitted on antoher thread wolf, that you can't change what a thing is by merely applying an idea to it. Unborns are living human beings and you are completely unable to prove otherwise. The most you can do is apply some idea to them in an attempt to make them something else and you have admitted that you can't do it. Why keep trying to do a thing that you know you can't do?

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oh yes and its not the far right who keep telling us we don't have to aid any of our fellow human beings and we can bitch everytime we're asked to help our country (especially in terms of taxes) because its everyone for themselves. very rightious and moral.
Research wolf. The right gives more of its out of pocket to charity than the left by a factor of about 7 while the left believes that giving money to government is enough even though the government has proven itself to be completely unable to help anyone.
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Old 04-04-2008, 04:46 AM
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Here are just a few of the children that died while you cheered on the bombing hypocrite.
Can you show any evidence of people cheering the war in Iraq? Sometimes war is necessary peach. It isn't pleasant but there are times when you simply can't let the status quo remain. Saddam had rape rooms peach where he brought the wives and daughters of people he didn't like and in front of those people he let soldier after soldier rape the women who were important to the man. He tortured for fun peach and kept detailed records of who was tortured, what was done to them and how they reacted. His sons ran people alive through wood chippers and laughed.

If you see that sort of thing happening, and you have the power to stop it and don't, then you are no better than the one doing those things. The sanctions that the UN put in place in an attempt to make him come into line weren't working and never would have because france, germany, and russia were buying enormous quantites of oil from him under the table.

The dead and wounded chldren are tragic, but what saddam was doing to them and their familes was even more tragic. And since you seem to beleive that showing pictures of dead children proves your point, If we start providing picture after picture of children killed in abortions does that make us right? You may be able to document a couple of thousand accidentally killed in a war while we can document over 40 million killed deliberately. Who is the greater hypocrite peach?
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Old 04-04-2008, 04:49 AM
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Can you show any evidence of people cheering the war in Iraq? Sometimes war is necessary peach. It isn't pleasant but there are times when you simply can't let the status quo remain. Saddam had rape rooms peach where he brought the wives and daughters of people he didn't like and in front of those people he let soldier after soldier rape the women who were important to the man. He tortured for fun peach and kept detailed records of who was tortured, what was done to them and how they reacted. His sons ran people alive through wood chippers and laughed.

If you see that sort of thing happening, and you have the power to stop it and don't, then you are no better than the one doing those things. The sanctions that the UN put in place in an attempt to make him come into line weren't working and never would have because france, germany, and russia were buying enormous quantites of oil from him under the table.

The dead and wounded chldren are tragic, but what saddam was doing to them and their familes was even more tragic. And since you seem to beleive that showing pictures of dead children proves your point, If we start providing picture after picture of children killed in abortions does that make us right? You may be able to document a couple of thousand accidentally killed in a war while we can document over 40 million killed deliberately. Who is the greater hypocrite peach?
So where is the proof of your accusations against Saddam???Hey!
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Does a FETUS HAVE THE RIGHT???. Well no more than the Kittens that people drown.
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Old 04-04-2008, 05:10 AM
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I support the war on terrorism for various reasons.
Mainly, because terrorists are trying to take away my freedoms through violence.
I do not think terrorists should murder people for legal acts in their own countries, such as abortion, building wealth, taking on a trip on a cruise ship, owning a bible, voting for a leader, women learning to read and write, eating pork etc.....even though, abortion and Homo anal sex has probably killed more people than war!
It's unfortunate that some terrorists think their freedoms are being deprived simply because I have the freedom to exercise my rights.
That's why there are wars!
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Old 04-04-2008, 05:15 AM
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So where is the proof of your accusations against Saddam???Hey!
Here. These should get you started. There are hundreds of reports from credible news sources as well and the dump of government documents from iraq has reveald that saddam kept meticulous records of his victims and their tortures to the point of keeping count of the number of bullets used to execute prisoners.

Document - Iraq: Systematic torture of political prisoneres | Amnesty International

Document - Iraq: Stop the torture | Amnesty International

Document - Iraq: Systematic torture, execution and punitive surgery: Medical letter writing action | Amnesty International
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Does a FETUS HAVE THE RIGHT???. Well no more than the Kittens that people drown.
So can you show in any way that an unborn is a kitten and not a human being? Or is this the best argument you have in support of your pro choice position?
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Here. These should get you started. There are hundreds of reports from credible news sources as well and the dump of government documents from iraq has reveald that saddam kept meticulous records of his victims and their tortures to the point of keeping count of the number of bullets used to execute prisoners.

Document - Iraq: Systematic torture of political prisoneres | Amnesty International

Document - Iraq: Stop the torture | Amnesty International

Document - Iraq: Systematic torture, execution and punitive surgery: Medical letter writing action | Amnesty International
Amnesty International, what a fucken joke.
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