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07-09-2008, 12:54 PM
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also, Towelie, I asked you if abortion was made illegal would you then believe it was wrong to have one?
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No, it wouldn't be wrong. The law would be wrong. Abortion will continue regardless of the law.
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07-09-2008, 02:44 PM
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Take your textbooks and stick 'em up your ass. Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!
Textbooks make for boring conversationalists. Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!
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LOL, Amen to that... 
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07-09-2008, 02:48 PM
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It doesn't matter if we are talking health, money, finances, abortion,....we are talking about morality being subjective...WHICH IT ISN'T!!
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So...everybodies morality is, or should be the same? Robots anyone?
Hell Joy, why did God give you a brain to think for yourself if you could be programed instead?
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07-09-2008, 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Towelie
Yes, it's consitutional. Nowhere in the constitution does it deny (or even mention) abortion. No amount of semantics wrangling is going to make a blob of cells a "person." "Potential person" is the best you can hope for.
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I have made both legal and philosophical arguements for the personhood of the unborn and to date, you have not made a rebuttal to either. Simply saying that an unborn is not a person does not make it so.
The fact is that legal precedent for the personhood of the unborn is established and the body of precedent is growing all the time. Your argument fails on its face.
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You never get tired of being wrong, do you? A person has rights whether that person is a day old or 100 years old.
However none of this applies to mindless blobs of non-sentient biomatter. Zygotes, blastocysts, embryos and fetuses aren't "people."
Give it up, dude. You're making a fool of yourself with this repetitive absurdity.
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Still waiting for you to offer up any credible evidence that suggests that unborns are something other than living human beings. The fact that you haven't been able to provide even a shred of support for your postion is becoming painfully obvious.
Can you, or can you not provide any credible materials that suggest that an unborn is less human, or less alive than you?
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07-09-2008, 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by jan
Take your textbooks and stick 'em up your ass. Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!
Textbooks make for boring conversationalists. Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!
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So you have nothing huh? Don't worry, you didn't dissappoint me. I could have told you. Oh, wait, I did tell you.
So now that we have established beyond argument that you are dead wrong, do you have any other argument to make?
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07-09-2008, 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Towelie
No, it wouldn't be wrong. The law would be wrong. Abortion will continue regardless of the law.
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You seem to be contradicting your self. Surprise surprise surprise.
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The law says they're wrong, sparky. Stealing cars is illegal. Abortion is not.
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First you say that if the law says they are wrong then they are wrong and then you say that the law can be wrong if it bans a thing that you favor. Which is it?
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07-09-2008, 05:39 PM
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LOL, Amen to that... 
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Shake those pom poms cheerleader. Does everything that defeats your argument bore you?
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07-09-2008, 06:07 PM
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Shake those pom poms cheerleader. Does everything that defeats your argument bore you?
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Says the moron who thinks a blob of cells is an infant.
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07-10-2008, 01:44 AM
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you have proved to me exaaactly what I thought.
Pale Rider...I am so glad that you saw what I was pointing out....
They say morality is subjective, I make a point to refute that, they say well if the law says it wrong it's wrong, okay, I make another point, then they ...uuggh whatever....it's like trying to stick jello to the wall with a stapler...
Come on you guys. You are not being intellectually honest.
Morality is not subjective!!
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07-10-2008, 05:44 AM
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Shake those pom poms cheerleader. Does everything that defeats your argument bore you?
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LOL, nothing has defeated my arguments yet simply because my ONLY argument is a womans right to choose and that will never change so stop trying to play God with others lives..
The only thing that bores me is YOU... 
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