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Old 06-21-2008, 06:23 PM
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It's been proven over and over, you're just to thick headed to see what the truth really is.

Most pro lifers are like that..
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Old 06-21-2008, 06:24 PM
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It's been proven over and over, you're just to thick headed to see what the truth really is.

Most pro lifers are like that..
Sorry liar, but it hasn't. I do invite you to bring foreward the proof that you claim but we both know that you won't because you can't because it hasn't.
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Old 06-21-2008, 06:29 PM
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Quite a few people have "brought forth" proof on here but since you have a tiny little mind that can't grasp anything but what you say is true it just goes right over your head.

There's no way you can have an honest discussion with a Bot that keeps repeating the same old over and over.


When you read one of your comments you've read them all...

And when you get frustrated you start calling people names.. That just makes you look so small...
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Old 06-21-2008, 06:41 PM
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Quite a few people have "brought forth" proof on here but since you have a tiny little mind that can't grasp anything but what you say is true it just goes right over your head.
Sorry liar, but no one has. Simply saying a thing doesn't make it true. But again, I welcome you to bring the material here and prove that you aren't a blad faced liar.

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And when you get frustrated you start calling people names.. That just makes you look so small...
Since I have proven that you are a liar, calling you a liar isn't calling names.
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Old 06-21-2008, 06:44 PM
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Since I have proven that you are a liar, calling you a liar isn't calling names.

You have proven nothing at all except that you are a full blown psycho that doesn't know which end is for eating and which is for ing.
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Old 06-21-2008, 07:03 PM
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You have proven nothing at all except that you are a full blown psycho that doesn't know which end is for eating and which is for ing.
I have proven that we are living human beings from the time we are concieved and to date, no one has offered up even a semi credible piece of science that says otherwise.
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Old 06-21-2008, 08:57 PM
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I have proven that we are living human beings from the time we are concieved and to date, no one has offered up even a semi credible piece of science that says otherwise.
You're proven nothing except for the fact that you can effectively dredge up biased, anti-choice propaganda.
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Old 06-21-2008, 10:41 PM
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I have proven that we are living human beings from the time we are concieved and to date, no one has offered up even a semi credible piece of science that says otherwise.
If the law stated that a fetus is a living human being, yes, you would have proven yourself. But the fact that the law states a fetus is NOT a person until birth PROVES factually that I - and Lexi - are correct.
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Old 06-21-2008, 10:46 PM
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So explain why a fetus is not a person. Explain why personhood is a matter of degree rather than a matter of kind.
The law does not define a fetus as a person. A fetus nothing like you or me. It cannot survive on it's own, it cannot breathe on it's own, it cannot think or feel and has no idea of it's whereabouts, or even it's existance.
You cannot compare a fetus to a person because they are not the same thing.
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Old 06-21-2008, 11:03 PM
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You're proven nothing except for the fact that you can effectively dredge up biased, anti-choice propaganda.

Since when are basic college medical textbooks "anti-choice propaganda".

In 1981, a United States Senate judiciary subcommittee received the following testimony from a collection of medical experts

(Subcommittee on Separation of Powers to Senate Judiciary Committee S-158 Report, 97th Congress, 1st Session, 1981)

Professor Micheline Matthews-Roth
Harvard University Medical School

"It is incorrect to say that biological data cannot be decisive...It is scientifically correct to say that an individual human life begins at conception."


Dr. Alfred M. Bongioanni
Professor of Pediatrics and Obstetrics, University of Pennsylvania

"I have learned from my earliest medical education that human life begins at the time of conception."


Dr. Jerome LeJeune
Professor of Genetics, University of Descartes

"After fertilization has taken place a new human being has come into being. [It] is no longer a matter of taste or opinion...it is plain experimental evidence. Each individual has a very neat beginning, at conception."


Professor Hymie Gordon
Mayo Clinic

"By all the criteria of modern molecular biology, life is present from the moment of conception."


Dr. Watson A. Bowes
University of Colorado Medical School

"The beginning of a single human life is from a biological point of view a simple and straightforward matter – the beginning is conception."

The official Senate report reached this conclusion:


Physicians, biologists, and other scientists agree that conception marks the beginning of the life of a human being - a being that is alive and is a member of the human species. There is overwhelming agreement on this point in countless medical, biological, and scientific writings
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