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06-20-2008, 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by PaleRider
OK. I'll play. When do we start and how do we decide on judges because frankly, most of the pro choicers here don't have the brains of a donkey.
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I've been arguing this subject for many years now, and I have never backed down.
I can agree to disagree, but when someone pushes the issue...
You make some good points, Pale, I'll give you that, but you can't deny the fact that pro choicers also raise some very good arguments, also.
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06-21-2008, 12:20 AM
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Does the fetus have the right to live by constitution?
No. A fetus is not a person.
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06-21-2008, 12:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Towelie
Does the fetus have the right to live by constitution?
No. A fetus is not a person.
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There you have it folks...
Even a bong smoking towel knows what's up...
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06-21-2008, 05:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Towelie
Does the fetus have the right to live by constitution?
No. A fetus is not a person.
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Here's someone who knows what they are talking about.
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06-21-2008, 08:20 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Back Atcha
Look, my time is limited. I know your rep. I've read most of the threads you dominate. I know your MO.
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My MO is to systematically expose the inherent dishonesty in an argument and tear it down.
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Originally Posted by Back Atcha
Will you admit defeat if it comes to a decision against you?
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Sure if the judges can explain exactly why the decision went against me and back it up with credible evidence. I would admit defeat to you if you were able to do that. I am a thinking person and will always bow to a more powerful argument. Yours isn't.
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06-21-2008, 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by My Winter Storm
Here's someone who knows what they are talking about.
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So explain why a fetus is not a person. Explain why personhood is a matter of degree rather than a matter of kind.
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06-21-2008, 04:00 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Towelie
Does the fetus have the right to live by constitution?
No. A fetus is not a person.
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Very true, if a fetus were a person they would have a full body, arms , legs, head , brain, heart and all the other things a person has to function on their own from the time they were conceived.
In reality a fetus is only a clump of cells without the capacity to think, feel or live on their own. So when some say a fetus is a "living breathing human being" that is just a flat out lie and makes no sense at all . A fetus is not a human being until it is born and breathes on it's own.
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06-21-2008, 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Lexi
Very true, if a fetus were a person they would have a full body, arms , legs, head , brain, heart and all the other things a person has to function on their own from the time they were conceived.
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A mature person has those things. An immature person may or may not.
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06-21-2008, 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by PaleRider
A mature person has those things. An immature person may or may not.
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Then it isn't an "immature person" , it isn't a person at all... 
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06-21-2008, 06:19 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lexi
Then it isn't an "immature person" , it isn't a person at all... 
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Prove it. Until then, you are just yammering like a monkey in a tree and saying nothing at all.
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